Big pile of nonsense. Geography and tribalism main problems of the arabs....really i dont know what to say to this kind of sh...
Tribalism is part of human life since the very early days even until today. Persians were a tribe, they fought other iranian tribes like scythians, sarmatians, bactrians, soghdians and medians... in Germany their whole history was full of bloody war between german tribes...francs fought the saxon, the saxon fought the burgundians, the alemans fought them all, suebians fought the alemanians, anglians and frisians fought the saxon, west gothians vs vandals, vandals vs. francs...turkish tribes fought themselves all over the place and throughout the history, uigurs against oghooz, seljuks against afshars, aq qoyunlu vs. kara qoyunlu... so whats up with that shit about Geography? If tribalism and geography was the main issue of the arabs, so what was wrong with German geography? Where they from desert aswell? what about persians and turks? whats wrong with THEIR geography? And that were just a few examples. The everywhere on this world, everything started with tribalism. Every where on this world we had and still have tribes fighting eachother. Whats so unique about "arab" tribalism? Nothing. Spanish massacred the whole south and middle america a few hundreds of years ago. What was the problem with THEIR geopgraphy? Belgians did horrible things to black people in kongo. What about THEIR geopgraphy? The only thing that made them become more backward was the factor of islam which made war, killing, beheading, stealing,...to a godly suggestion. All those other tribes, be it european, asian, african or american fought and killed too, but they did not do it based on Gods rules and suggestion. Before Islam, arabs where just one out of tens of thousends of other tribes on this world who did not fight or killed more or less than most other tribes in any capacity. Islam brought godly justification to it, islam even encouraged killing and beheading and thats the sad difference. When killing becomes part of a so called godly religion, you have a problem.
Bottom line: Arab tribalism and geography was a no factor. The crap started with Islam. Organized killings in the name of god, organized beheading ceremonies in the name of god, organized raping in the name of god. organized expansionism in the name of god and FOR god.
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I dont think you need say anything. It is not important anyway what you say. You may want to tell these things to an angry 16 years old who is confused (like AN tired to push his version of social scineces on people and propagte them with rhetoric) but me it does not mean shit. In fact, your stubbornness in trying to push one point of view in discussion and pretend that that is the main source of truth makes your arguments easily redundant. Why? simply for the same reason when Khamenei tries to say that he is connected to god and he has monopoly on truth but when he makes a huge blunder then then it makes the basis of his regime so shaky that even if he says a small scientific fact no believes him.
WHY? because there is not one truth fir everyone who engages in a discussion about in social sciences. The only thing however that makes you stay around and chase people away fro this site is the enormous arrogance you have (like AN) and a bit of connection. That is why this forum has been reduced to these number of people over the years. A few adherents to the prophet of arrogance makes it simple for people to screw everything up.
Now that I have dealt with your FIRST and LAST sentence of the above post I am going to talk about the crap that you wrote there. You just probably went and researched on google and wiki and found a few names of a few German tribes who were fighting each other that you missed the whole point. Germans may have had a tribal culture at some point in history but they do not have it anymore. In fact, for a long time now lol. Do you think German tribalism is the pillar of German society today? lol Or even Iranian? well, Iranians are in small numbers, however, you should understand that political culture and political concepts of Iranians are now being challenged by West.That is the point: When you have a modern Urban middle-class who live mainly in urban areas they will shape the culture of the country and political concepts ingrained in minds of its people. Iran has slowly moved towards that direction.
How about Arabs? Well, firstly, you have to understand that Arabs by large have lived in clans (even if they have cities). Saudi Arabia and the whole Arab peninsula had hardly any Urban areas till 40/50 years ago.
Arab culture exists of clans and tribes. In tribalism the system of security is based on making opposition for the sake of dealing with insecurity and social control in the tribe. us vs them or our tribe vs their tribe, hence we need to keep together. hence, we need to keep the honour. hence, we need to take listen to tribal leaders.
Geography comes in because of the way social relations are formed as a result of geography and what make resources for people and how those resources shape relations of people.
For example: why is Gilan more advanced when it comes to thinking about women? One reason could be because the way men and women had to work together on farms. Why did New Zealand women a leading force in feminism and were the first to gain voting right? one reason that theorists have put forward is because of how settlers in New Zealand were isolated from each other; hence men and women had to work together on farms.
So why is the Arab culture so tribal? One reason could be because of the scarcity of resources such as water and they tried to keep their own tribes together by enforcing harsher majors to bond together stronger against harsh conditions.
This "us vs them" comes in here to make the group loyalty stronger. So when it comes to Islam concepts come into existence such as ummah vs infidels or muslism vs Christians. In the West, this patriarchal form of control has turned into ideologies such as nationalism. Before that it was in city-states competing with each other. Before that probably in feudal societies.
Point is that it is about keeping the social structure together. In today's Arab world the same concepts are present. Arab nationalist has a lot of tribal values in it. There was a theory which believed that Arab socialist states love marxism because it keeps their national identities together.
IN THE END however, by majority of time people who conduct scientific research on these issues do not come with one version of what is wrong. Only the types like Bill Maher do that (who are an example of American's shollow view of perceiving the world). It is hard to find social scientist who come with one explanation when it comes to the issues we mentioned.
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