Ukraine - The frontier for Russian and American

Chinaski

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true pro-democratic forces fighting for more democracy in Ukraine. Now Nazis and payed thugs are once again the accomplice and executing arm of the US political interessts and the european economical interessts.

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Chinaski

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This police force is way too defensive and undecisive. German or american police would give these terrorists hell on earth.
 
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Badbakhte bisavaaad loooooool. First you accused people of reflexting RTs views although i have not been on RTs website for about half a year. But you know what, i will now that you tak sellooli yaadam andaakhti as RT is more reliable than everything you can read in western mainstream media that started the syrian thing by calling al qaida killers Freedom fighters. Now i gave you a linke of the english channel that puts the word Pro-Democracy in "virgool" llooooool. Do you actually know what that means bisavaad? i mean that english channel pokhi nist, vali to ham pokhi nisti o goftam haalaa ke doost daari ye english channel vaasat biaaram ke dalghakemoon raazi she. Bisavaad, you will find thousends of sources about Svoboda and their role in that "pro democracy movement" looool. virgool yaadet nare.
Age product haaye mainstream amsaale to hastan ke khob natijash maloome dige. Enghadr doroogh o koso sher behetoon tazrigh kardan ke dige tamaame didetoon az donyaa koso sheri bish nist.

bebin to khodeto bokoshi, mokhet dar haddo andaazeye ye tak selllooli kaar mikone. Ye bisavaade tamaam ayaar. :)
LOL. Enghadar yani khengi to?! Virgool or no virgool makes no difference here! Either you believe in the political process in Ukraine in which case you'll appreciate that Svoboda is one the main parties in Ukraine elected in this democratic process of yours and don't have the right to complain about its Neo-Nazi tendencies or arranging protests - that's within the right of any opposition party in any democratic system. Or you don't believe in the political system in Ukraine like me, in which case I can say hell with the democratic process that brought a Neo-Nazi party into power and laugh at an article that calls a movement including a democratically elected group with seats in the parliament a "pro-democracy" movement.

Like I said, you flip flop like a Gemini on crack. The only thing that I find consistent in your posts is Russian khayeh-maali of the highest kind. Whatever their position is on something, it's also yours. I'm starting to think you have a school girl crush on Putin! ;)
 

Chinaski

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Koso sher nagoo baba tak sellooli, enghad koso sher o jafang gofti ke aadam haalesh az khodesh be ham mikhore ke vaght sarfe aadam kardane to mikone. I said it before and i will say it again: You are the kind of moron that accepts everything as good it only has to come from the west. A jihadi terrorist in Syria and Libya aswell as these nazi terrorists in Ukraine, do have your support just because they are backed by the US and the western powers. Age dolate amrikaa fardaa bege goh bokhorid vaasatoon khoobe, avalin kessi ke mikhore khode toi.

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Chinaski

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Ukrainian protests degenerated from hooliganism to terrorism

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Chinaski

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And the biggest supporter of terrorism all around the world Hussain Obama is starting his well known campaign: He warns the ukrainian government to not resort to violance against PEACEFULL protesters? looooooooool ahaha...the same scenario like in Libya and Syria. Hussain Obama provides support for all kind of terrorists, killer and thugs while calling them baa veghaahate tammam peacefull protesters, freedom fighters, pro democracy....we have seen that before. by now we know about the peacefull protesters and pro democracy forces who were and are still trying to bring democracy and freedom to Syria.

This motherfucker is factually and evidently fooling the whole world again and they are falling for it AGAIN!!! Again and again terrorists, thugs and killers get the US support. The media have started their coordinated support too. That democratic government of ukraine will be under heavy pressure of the biggest and most potent liers and fuckers in the world. Its not gonna be easy for them to keep the integrity and souvereinity of their country. The same old game again...

Hussain Obama:

“We expect the Ukrainian government to show restraint, to not resort to violence in dealing with peaceful protesters,” Obama said Wednesday from Mexico ahead of a summit with other North American leaders.

“We’ll be monitoring very carefully the situation, recognizing that, along with our European partners and the international community, there will be consequences if people step over the line,”


ay khaar kosseye haroom zaadeh...
 

Flint

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#48
Hey you, grape sucker, looks like you found your bearings after a few days of confusion and managed put this on America again. What a one trick pony you are. BTW, all the dead are among the protestors. Who is violent?
 
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What a shitty weak police force they have...
Na Ostad, didn't you see all the US made heavy weapons in the hands of the protesters in the pictures China posted - just like the ones in the hands of Iranian protesters of 2009, and Libyan and Syrian protesters of 2011! Can't you see them with your own eyes?! That's a TTL-BS-325 US army issued mace, KOS-SHR-35 US Navy edition basball bats, special CIA IMNASS molotov cocktails and of course the Barrett 0.5 sniper rifles in those pictures. The police are helpless against this barbaric American aggression through Ukranian Islamists! :mymistake
 

Flint

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Ah, yes. He finally found his favorite Islamists! Man, they are everywhere. So anyone who is on his knees is an Islamist? Here is another Islamist losing it over Imam Hussein.

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tajrish

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It is so clear that it is amazing that you guys cannot see it. This is obviously the work of Americans and it's been in works since the Carter Islamization plan was initiated, starting with our revolution. Pieces are all falling in place now. They are doing the same thing in Thailand.
 

Chinaski

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Ukrainian unrest ‘is not a democratic process’

With only 50 percent of people supporting the current protests in Ukraine, the opposition has no clear moral authority to overthrow Yanukovich, Ben Aris, editor and publisher at Business New Europe, told RT.

RT: The EU and the US were quick to threaten the Ukrainian government with sanctions for using violence on protesters but why are they ignoring the brutality on part of the rioters?

Ben Aris: I think we went into a very difficult situation now and it’s not black and white as the coverage seems to be painting it. I think the thing we are going to take from the last night is that the opposition leaders have lost control over the situation. And the people on the square last night fighting were more of a mob than an organized protest along the lines they had about the government. Everyone is going to be focused on stopping the violence, stopping the fighting and getting to the negotiating table.

RT: We're hearing opposition leaders calling for a coup. Klichko even went as far as warning Yanukovich to “not repeat the fate of Gaddafi.” Why is the West silent about that?

BA: It’s not a democratic process. The problem that we face here is that Ukraine is actually divided fairly evenly. The last polls I saw say that 50 percent of people supported the protests, just over 40 percent were against them and around 7 percent were undecided, which means the opposition doesn't have a clear moral authority, a mandate from the people in order to change a government. Moreover, you have to remember at the end of the day that for all his ills, and he has many, Yanukovich remains the democratically-elected president and for the last 20 years we've been saying to the Eastern European countries that they need to respect democracy. However, here is the situation where the EU and the US say: “Forget everything we said for the last 20 years, let's support these guys because they are fighting for freedom.” So this is the same double standard going on here.

RT: The opposition leaders say they want Ukraine to be a European state but will the EU be happy about having revolutionaries as partners?

BA: There is an irony here, isn't it? They used to stand up for the values of democracy, and the opposition stood up for this as well. But Ukraine under its current leadership is choosing a much more authoritarian way of running the country. That kind of country would not make a good EU partner. I’m not sure, you could have been careful about what you wish for, if they did let Ukraine in, whether it would actually be a suitable member of the Union.

RT: The situation in Kiev overnight descended into a mob rule. Can the opposition leaders really control their supporters and the situation?

BA: I’m not sure they can. I think the violence that broke out last night was symptomatic of the frustration that some people on Maidan are feeling with the inability of the opposition leaders to deliver any change to force Yanukovich from office. Like I said, he is a democratically elected leader and under the Constitution you have to wait until the elections in 2015. That is really the only legal way of getting rid of him. But of course people are impatient, they want change now, and they are going to try and force it. But the problem is if you come down to force, Yanukovich has all the instruments of power in the form of the police and the army, and the protesters are not going to be able to force a change on Yanukovich. This has to be a negotiated change if there is going to be a change at all. And there is no reason why he should step down before the elections.
 

Chinaski

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Disintegration....where ever there are disintegrative, thuggish and extremist elements, be it jihadists and al qaida killers in the islamic world or Nazis and their open supporters in Ukraine... the US and their dogs are not far away. They are trying to destroy this country to have a battle ground right in russias backyard.