They need to send in the Army. Fast. This criminal pack is destroying the country with the medial help of US and the West. This poor police force is still operating completely defensive. Really, open up the damn fire on these thugs and killers already.
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They finally seem to have realized that their country is getting destroyed their policemen getting killed in front of their eyes. They now allowed to make use of real fire guns. To me its still way too soft. This foreign backed trash needs to be cleaned from the streets fast. Send in the army already. Dont let it become another Syria by waiting too long to act. They are naive. They are defensive ke aato daste US o EU nadan but it wont work because the US and EU do control the medial landscape and they make opinions. They are already calling this pack of thugs protesters who protest for more democracy! they will back this pack any way, no matter if the police is defensive or offensive. INaa barnaamashoon harjaa raftan hamin boodeh. Kiev is a real war zone now and these guys are outlaws who are about to destroy a big chunk of that once beautiful city. American or any other european government would have pounded them long ago.
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Dude, bikhodi khodeto khasteh nakon posting articles from RT that you supposedly don't visit! 
I think everybody gets it that there are far-right ultra-nationalist groups in Ukraine - hell, some of them even have seats in parliament compliments of the great democratic system you praise in Ukraine! What's your point? Where's the connection to the West? Where did you see a western politician say we support neo-Nazi groups? Where did you see a member of a Ukrainian Neo-Nazi group say the west supports us? Where's the evidence that an anti-EU/US pro-Russian group is all of a sudden pro-American? Where's the American weapons in the pictures you posted? Where's a single piece of legislation from any Western country that makes neo-Nazism acceptable? Where's a past example of a Western government supporting neo-Nazis elsewhere?
You want to connect gooz to shaghigheh, by all means, but at least provide something that makes someone think, hey there may be a very very small possibility this guy's onto something. You want to advance every argument kilooyee kilooyee - lots of quantity, zero quality.
I think everybody gets it that there are far-right ultra-nationalist groups in Ukraine - hell, some of them even have seats in parliament compliments of the great democratic system you praise in Ukraine! What's your point? Where's the connection to the West? Where did you see a western politician say we support neo-Nazi groups? Where did you see a member of a Ukrainian Neo-Nazi group say the west supports us? Where's the evidence that an anti-EU/US pro-Russian group is all of a sudden pro-American? Where's the American weapons in the pictures you posted? Where's a single piece of legislation from any Western country that makes neo-Nazism acceptable? Where's a past example of a Western government supporting neo-Nazis elsewhere?
You want to connect gooz to shaghigheh, by all means, but at least provide something that makes someone think, hey there may be a very very small possibility this guy's onto something. You want to advance every argument kilooyee kilooyee - lots of quantity, zero quality.
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Dotaa bisavaadaaye tak selloooli oomadan. Natarsid, ye 2, 3 taa dige az amsaale shomaa haa ham hanooz miaan ke hich harfi vaase goftan nadaashtan. Ye mosht alaafe ablah. Raasti seyyed, there is a full scale democratization process under way in Ukraine and i think RT is reporting it best. You actually came up with the idea and i said to mysefl why not? RT is head and shoulder above everything the US and european multimedia has to offer in this regard. Aslan to adadi nisti ke bekhaay begi ki chi minevise. Pedar jaan to ye bisavaade tamaam ayaari.
If we would have relied on you bisavaads and the western media, we would still believe there are freedom fighters fighting for freedom and democracy in syria. Bisavaadit dige injaa moshakhas shode, baavar kon hataa miyoone refighaat ham aashkaar shode, montaahaa chon man refighaato aadam hesaab nemikonam, baaz tarjih midan hichi nagan taa biaan koso sheraaye toro taid konan. In aato aashghaalaai ham ke dore khodet jam kardi eyne in flint o tajrish o iran zamin hamashoon kotak khorde haaye hamishegi hastan. Oona ham eyne khodet ye mosht bisavaadan ke hich gaah dar hich zaminei harfi vaase goftan nadaashtan. Haalaa mishini report haaye RT ro mikhooni o yavaash yavaash aadam mishi hamoontor ke too thread Assad aakharam khafeghoon gerefti o dige dare mostaraaro basti
If we would have relied on you bisavaads and the western media, we would still believe there are freedom fighters fighting for freedom and democracy in syria. Bisavaadit dige injaa moshakhas shode, baavar kon hataa miyoone refighaat ham aashkaar shode, montaahaa chon man refighaato aadam hesaab nemikonam, baaz tarjih midan hichi nagan taa biaan koso sheraaye toro taid konan. In aato aashghaalaai ham ke dore khodet jam kardi eyne in flint o tajrish o iran zamin hamashoon kotak khorde haaye hamishegi hastan. Oona ham eyne khodet ye mosht bisavaadan ke hich gaah dar hich zaminei harfi vaase goftan nadaashtan. Haalaa mishini report haaye RT ro mikhooni o yavaash yavaash aadam mishi hamoontor ke too thread Assad aakharam khafeghoon gerefti o dige dare mostaraaro basti
http://news.yahoo.com/melee-kiev-33-people-dead-67-police-captured-153947510.html
Melee in Kiev: 33 people dead, 67 police captured
Associated Press
By YURAS KARMANAU 31 minutes ago
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New Ukraine Clashes As Truce Collapses
KIEV, Ukraine (AP) — Fearing that a call for a truce was a ruse, protesters tossed firebombs and advanced upon police lines Thursday in Ukraine's embattled capital. Government snipers shot back and the almost-medieval melee that ensued left at least dozens of people dead.
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Meanwhile, the top medic for the protesters occupying central Kiev says at least 70 protesters have been killed in clashes with police in the Ukrainian capital. Dr. Oleh Musiy, the coordinator for the protesters' medical team, also says the number killed Thursday could well go even higher.
There was no way to independently confirm his statement. An AP reporter earlier in the day saw at least 21 bodies in Kiev's central square.
Video footage on Ukrainian television showed shocking scenes Thursday of protesters being cut down by gunfire, lying on the pavement as comrades rushed to their aid. Trying to protect themselves with shields, teams of protesters carried bodies away on sheets of plastic or on planks of wood.
Protesters were also seen leading policemen with their hands held high around the sprawling protest camp in central Kiev. Ukraine's Interior ministry says 67 police were captured in all. It was not clear how they were taken. An opposition lawmaker said they were being held in Kiev's occupied city hall.
President Viktor Yanukovych and the opposition protesters who demand his resignation are locked in an epic battle over the identity of Ukraine, a nation of 46 million that has divided loyalties between Russia and the West. Parts of the country — mostly in its western cities — are in open revolt against Yanukovych's central government, while many in eastern Ukraine favor strong ties with Russia, their former Soviet ruler.
At least 59 people have died this week in the clashes in Kiev, a sharp reversal in three months of mostly peaceful protests. Now neither side appears willing to compromise, with the opposition insisting on Yanukovych's resignation and an early election and the president apparently prepared to fight until the end.
Ukraine's President, Protesters Agree on Truce Play video
Ukraine's President, Protesters Agree on Truce
Thursday was the deadliest day yet. An AP cameraman saw snipers shooting at protesters in Kiev and video footage showed at least one sniper wearing a Ukraine riot police uniform.
An Associated Press reporter saw 21 bodies Thursday laid out on the edge of the capital's sprawling protest camp. Protest medic Andriy Huk later told the AP that 32 activists were killed Thursday. In addition, one policeman was killed and 28 suffered gunshot wounds Thursday, Interior Ministry spokesman Serhiy Burlakov told the AP.
The carnage appears to show that neither Yanukovych nor the opposition leaders appear to be in control of the chaos engulfing Ukraine.
A truce announced late Wednesday appeared to have little credibility among hardcore protesters at Kiev's Independence Square campsite. One camp commander, Oleh Mykhnyuk, told the AP even after the truce, protesters still threw firebombs at riot police on the square. As the sun rose, police pulled back, the protesters followed them and police then began shooting at them, he said.
The Interior Ministry warned Kiev residents to stay indoors Thursday because of the "armed and aggressive mood of the people."
Kiev Hospitals Treat Protesters, US Citizen Play video
Kiev Hospitals Treat Protesters, US Citizen
Yanukovych claimed Thursday that police were not armed and "all measures to stop bloodshed and confrontation are being taken." But the Interior Ministry later contradicted that, saying law enforcers would get weapons as part of an "anti-terrorist" operation.
Some signs emerged that Yanukovych is losing loyalists. The chief of Kiev's city administration, Volodymyr Makeyenko, announced Thursday he was leaving Yanukovych's Party of Regions.
"We must be guided only by the interests of the people, this is our only chance to save people's lives," he said, adding he would continue to fulfill his duties as long as he had the people's trust.
Another influential member of the ruling party, Serhiy Tyhipko, said both Yanukovych and opposition leaders had "completely lost control of the situation."
"Their inaction is leading to the strengthening of opposition and human victims," the Interfax news agency reported.
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Activists and priests pay respects to protesters who …
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The parliament building was evacuated Thursday because of fears that protesters would storm it, and the government office and the Foreign Ministry buildings in Kiev were also evacuated.
As the violence exploded and heavy smoke from burning barricades at the encampment belched into the sky, the foreign ministers of three European countries — France, Germany and Poland — met with Yanukovych for five hours after speaking with the opposition leaders. The EU ministers then returned to speak again with opposition leaders.
The 28-nation European Union was scheduled to hold an emergency meeting on Ukraine later Thursday in Brussels to consider sanctions against those behind the violence, but it was not clear when the three EU ministers would be leaving Kiev.
The latest bout of street violence began Tuesday when protesters attacked police lines and set fires outside parliament, accusing Yanukovych of ignoring their demands to enact constitutional reforms that would once again limit the president's power.
Prior to the deaths and injuries on Thursday, the Ukrainian Health Ministry said 28 people have died and 287 have been hospitalized during the two days of street violence. Protesters who have set up a medical facility in a downtown cathedral so that wounded colleagues would not be snatched away by police say the number of injured are significantly higher — possibly double or triple that.
View gallery
Anti-government protesters clash with riot police in …
Anti-government protesters clash with riot police in Kiev's Independence Square, the epicenter o …
The Caritas Ukraine aid group praised the protest medics but said many of the wounded will need long-term care, including prosthetics.
The clashes this week have been the most deadly since protests kicked off in November after Yanukovych shelved an association agreement with the European Union in favor of closer ties with Russia. Russia then announced a $15 billion bailout for Ukraine, whose economy is in tatters.
The political jockeying for influence in Ukraine has continued.
In Moscow, the Kremlin said President Vladimir Putin was sending former ombudsman Vladimir Lukin to Ukraine as a mediator.
President Barack Obama stepped in to condemn the violence, warning Wednesday "there will be consequences" for Ukraine if it keeps up. The U.S. has raised the prospect of joining with the EU to impose sanctions against Ukraine.
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An anti-government protester holds a crucifix as he …
An anti-government protester holds a crucifix as he prays at Independence Square in Kiev, Ukraine, T …
Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev said Russia will "try to do our best" to fulfill its financial obligations to Ukraine, but indicated Moscow would hold back on further installments of its bailout money until the crisis is resolved.
"We need partners that are in good shape and a Ukrainian government that is legitimate and effective," he said.
At the Winter Olympics in Sochi, Ukrainian alpine skier Bogdana Matsotska, 24, said she will not take part in Friday's women's slalom due to the developments in Kiev.
"As a protest against lawless actions made toward protesters, the lack of responsibility from the side of the president and his lackey government, we refuse further performance at the 2014 Sochi Olympic Games," her father and coach, Oleg Matsotskyy, wrote in a Facebook post.
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Maria Danilova, Jim Heintz and Yury Uvarov in Kiev contributed to this report
Melee in Kiev: 33 people dead, 67 police captured
Associated Press
By YURAS KARMANAU 31 minutes ago
.
New Ukraine Clashes As Truce Collapses
KIEV, Ukraine (AP) — Fearing that a call for a truce was a ruse, protesters tossed firebombs and advanced upon police lines Thursday in Ukraine's embattled capital. Government snipers shot back and the almost-medieval melee that ensued left at least dozens of people dead.
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Police say 20 officers wounded by gunfire in Kiev Associated Press
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Ukraine president, protest leaders agree on truce Associated Press
Meanwhile, the top medic for the protesters occupying central Kiev says at least 70 protesters have been killed in clashes with police in the Ukrainian capital. Dr. Oleh Musiy, the coordinator for the protesters' medical team, also says the number killed Thursday could well go even higher.
There was no way to independently confirm his statement. An AP reporter earlier in the day saw at least 21 bodies in Kiev's central square.
Video footage on Ukrainian television showed shocking scenes Thursday of protesters being cut down by gunfire, lying on the pavement as comrades rushed to their aid. Trying to protect themselves with shields, teams of protesters carried bodies away on sheets of plastic or on planks of wood.
Protesters were also seen leading policemen with their hands held high around the sprawling protest camp in central Kiev. Ukraine's Interior ministry says 67 police were captured in all. It was not clear how they were taken. An opposition lawmaker said they were being held in Kiev's occupied city hall.
President Viktor Yanukovych and the opposition protesters who demand his resignation are locked in an epic battle over the identity of Ukraine, a nation of 46 million that has divided loyalties between Russia and the West. Parts of the country — mostly in its western cities — are in open revolt against Yanukovych's central government, while many in eastern Ukraine favor strong ties with Russia, their former Soviet ruler.
At least 59 people have died this week in the clashes in Kiev, a sharp reversal in three months of mostly peaceful protests. Now neither side appears willing to compromise, with the opposition insisting on Yanukovych's resignation and an early election and the president apparently prepared to fight until the end.
Ukraine's President, Protesters Agree on Truce Play video
Ukraine's President, Protesters Agree on Truce
Thursday was the deadliest day yet. An AP cameraman saw snipers shooting at protesters in Kiev and video footage showed at least one sniper wearing a Ukraine riot police uniform.
An Associated Press reporter saw 21 bodies Thursday laid out on the edge of the capital's sprawling protest camp. Protest medic Andriy Huk later told the AP that 32 activists were killed Thursday. In addition, one policeman was killed and 28 suffered gunshot wounds Thursday, Interior Ministry spokesman Serhiy Burlakov told the AP.
The carnage appears to show that neither Yanukovych nor the opposition leaders appear to be in control of the chaos engulfing Ukraine.
A truce announced late Wednesday appeared to have little credibility among hardcore protesters at Kiev's Independence Square campsite. One camp commander, Oleh Mykhnyuk, told the AP even after the truce, protesters still threw firebombs at riot police on the square. As the sun rose, police pulled back, the protesters followed them and police then began shooting at them, he said.
The Interior Ministry warned Kiev residents to stay indoors Thursday because of the "armed and aggressive mood of the people."
Kiev Hospitals Treat Protesters, US Citizen Play video
Kiev Hospitals Treat Protesters, US Citizen
Yanukovych claimed Thursday that police were not armed and "all measures to stop bloodshed and confrontation are being taken." But the Interior Ministry later contradicted that, saying law enforcers would get weapons as part of an "anti-terrorist" operation.
Some signs emerged that Yanukovych is losing loyalists. The chief of Kiev's city administration, Volodymyr Makeyenko, announced Thursday he was leaving Yanukovych's Party of Regions.
"We must be guided only by the interests of the people, this is our only chance to save people's lives," he said, adding he would continue to fulfill his duties as long as he had the people's trust.
Another influential member of the ruling party, Serhiy Tyhipko, said both Yanukovych and opposition leaders had "completely lost control of the situation."
"Their inaction is leading to the strengthening of opposition and human victims," the Interfax news agency reported.
View gallery
Activists and priests pay respects to protesters who …
Activists and priests pay respects to protesters who were killed in clashes with police, a flag held …
The parliament building was evacuated Thursday because of fears that protesters would storm it, and the government office and the Foreign Ministry buildings in Kiev were also evacuated.
As the violence exploded and heavy smoke from burning barricades at the encampment belched into the sky, the foreign ministers of three European countries — France, Germany and Poland — met with Yanukovych for five hours after speaking with the opposition leaders. The EU ministers then returned to speak again with opposition leaders.
The 28-nation European Union was scheduled to hold an emergency meeting on Ukraine later Thursday in Brussels to consider sanctions against those behind the violence, but it was not clear when the three EU ministers would be leaving Kiev.
The latest bout of street violence began Tuesday when protesters attacked police lines and set fires outside parliament, accusing Yanukovych of ignoring their demands to enact constitutional reforms that would once again limit the president's power.
Prior to the deaths and injuries on Thursday, the Ukrainian Health Ministry said 28 people have died and 287 have been hospitalized during the two days of street violence. Protesters who have set up a medical facility in a downtown cathedral so that wounded colleagues would not be snatched away by police say the number of injured are significantly higher — possibly double or triple that.
View gallery
Anti-government protesters clash with riot police in …
Anti-government protesters clash with riot police in Kiev's Independence Square, the epicenter o …
The Caritas Ukraine aid group praised the protest medics but said many of the wounded will need long-term care, including prosthetics.
The clashes this week have been the most deadly since protests kicked off in November after Yanukovych shelved an association agreement with the European Union in favor of closer ties with Russia. Russia then announced a $15 billion bailout for Ukraine, whose economy is in tatters.
The political jockeying for influence in Ukraine has continued.
In Moscow, the Kremlin said President Vladimir Putin was sending former ombudsman Vladimir Lukin to Ukraine as a mediator.
President Barack Obama stepped in to condemn the violence, warning Wednesday "there will be consequences" for Ukraine if it keeps up. The U.S. has raised the prospect of joining with the EU to impose sanctions against Ukraine.
View gallery
An anti-government protester holds a crucifix as he …
An anti-government protester holds a crucifix as he prays at Independence Square in Kiev, Ukraine, T …
Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev said Russia will "try to do our best" to fulfill its financial obligations to Ukraine, but indicated Moscow would hold back on further installments of its bailout money until the crisis is resolved.
"We need partners that are in good shape and a Ukrainian government that is legitimate and effective," he said.
At the Winter Olympics in Sochi, Ukrainian alpine skier Bogdana Matsotska, 24, said she will not take part in Friday's women's slalom due to the developments in Kiev.
"As a protest against lawless actions made toward protesters, the lack of responsibility from the side of the president and his lackey government, we refuse further performance at the 2014 Sochi Olympic Games," her father and coach, Oleg Matsotskyy, wrote in a Facebook post.
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Maria Danilova, Jim Heintz and Yury Uvarov in Kiev contributed to this report
I hate to draw parallels between countries because often they are misleading.
but if you remember Jonbesh Sabz and overwhelming majority of the descent was expressed in Tehran.
in Ukraine too we witness almost all the protests occur in Kiev.
The strange thing is cities like Liviv which are located on the western border which favor closer ties with EU have been relatively quite.
this may be a product of Centralization of power. or the fact that political institutions in Ukraine as in Iran are quite weak and can't get mobilization.
but if you remember Jonbesh Sabz and overwhelming majority of the descent was expressed in Tehran.
in Ukraine too we witness almost all the protests occur in Kiev.
The strange thing is cities like Liviv which are located on the western border which favor closer ties with EU have been relatively quite.
this may be a product of Centralization of power. or the fact that political institutions in Ukraine as in Iran are quite weak and can't get mobilization.
To recap...
* Ukraine's own politicians are saying the situation needs to be defused.
* EU ministers are in Ukraine trying to bring the two sides together.
* The US is saying the violence needs to be stopped and a negotiated solution is the way to go.
* Yanukovych himself is even trying to reach some sort of truce with the opposition.
Meanwhile...
* The Russians stepped up pressure on Yanukovich to crack down and if he wanted more, desperately needed loans, the Russian prime minister said it would not hand over cash to a leadership that let opponents walk over it "like a doormat"!!!
Conclusion > The Russians are the only good guys, dastamal yazdia ro dar biareen mesle man bisavadaye bisharaf va daad bezaneed Hezbe Toudeh ROCKED, Reza Shah SUCKED!
* Ukraine's own politicians are saying the situation needs to be defused.
* EU ministers are in Ukraine trying to bring the two sides together.
* The US is saying the violence needs to be stopped and a negotiated solution is the way to go.
* Yanukovych himself is even trying to reach some sort of truce with the opposition.
Meanwhile...
* The Russians stepped up pressure on Yanukovich to crack down and if he wanted more, desperately needed loans, the Russian prime minister said it would not hand over cash to a leadership that let opponents walk over it "like a doormat"!!!
Conclusion > The Russians are the only good guys, dastamal yazdia ro dar biareen mesle man bisavadaye bisharaf va daad bezaneed Hezbe Toudeh ROCKED, Reza Shah SUCKED!
Hehe...the same scenario, the same game plan...now those unidentified roof top snipers have poped up again! The same rooftop snipers, that put fuel into fire by shooting policemen aswell as civilians in syria are now shooting from rooftops in Kiev.
RT crews under fire, armed rioters take over hotel, fire from windows in Kiev
RT crews under fire, armed rioters take over hotel, fire from windows in Kiev
