Is Assad at the verge and what does his fall mean for Iran?!

Chinaski

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اها حالا شدن وحشی. وقتی سر خبرنگار غربی رو میبریدن همین تو بی شرف خفه خون گرفته بودی و میگفتی که حقشونه. حالا فلینت و بی هنر رو سرزنش میکنی که از چه کسانی دفاع میکنند.
Bale bale, raast migi, ishoon bisharafisho neshoon daadeh o saabet kardeh va behet hagh midam. Vali bisharafisho too bahsaaye dige neshoon daadeh na too in thread. Too in thread o too in jaryaane Assad o Sooriye az ye mosht kos keshe tokhme sag eyne Bahonar o Flint, o iranzamin o gheyreh basharaft tare. Man moshgeli nadaaram baa inke be in baba migi bisharaf, mano vaase "moron" goftan ban kardan. Hamoon moron i ro ke be oon dayoos Kaz goftam ro age be 4Paa migoftam vaasam thanks ham mizadan. Hamintor ke to vaghti behesh migi bisharaf aab ham az aab tekoon nemikhore.

Ay ke tof too soorate palide oon dayoosi ke yekiro vaase "moron" goftan ban mikone, kessaaye digaro afv mikone. Injaa too in site ye chizi kaamelan moshakhase: Moshgel fohsh nist o naboodeh. Mohem ine ke 1- Ki fohsh mide 2- be ki fohsh mishe. Hamino bas. Vaase khodeshoon jomhoori eslaamiye ISP raah andaakhtan dayoosaa
 
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IEI

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Now they are using chemical weapons against their own people.
The reaction of the world is so slow in my opinion.
This is a war. Both sides are trying to win by all means.
One side is executing in the name of the god and the other side is using chemical weapon.
There is no winner on this.
 

masoudA

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China good to see you back........I agree with all you said except the part about Flint and BHonar......so what if they disagree with you on Assad.....so what if they are not smart enough to recognize dayoos tar az Assad is about to take over Syria and it will be even worst for Iran as is today? So what if BH has not been involved with Iran enough to know Shariati was an idiot used by foreigners to give a democratic face to Islam? None of that makes them khaen........what does make someone a khaen is TEACHING and SPREADING FALSE PROPAGANDA. What is Bisharafi is accepting a JOB in which you have to act against the best HUMAN interests of your own people and country.

Don't get banned....we have a lot to talk about.
 

Chinaski

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Na Massoud, man paay bande ye seri chizaa nistam ke to shaayad khodeto beheshoon paay band kardi. Man baa kessi nokaram chaakeram nadaashtam ke haalaa bekhaam too roo darvaasi bioftam. Flint o bihonar o iranzamin o ye mosht dayoose dige hamoonian ke goftam va man moshgelam baa in bisavaadaa faghat sare jaryaane assad nist. oon seyyed bihonar kesaafat kaari o bisavaadisho too bahsaaye shariati o khoone indogerman o in jaryaan be andaaze kaafi didam, inaa ye mosht bisavaade foroo maayeh hastan, ye mosht dalaal sefate past ke motasefaane age bandeh faghat yekiro daashteh baasham ke haghamo nakhore, inaa jaash 3 nafaro daaran ke behesh shekaayat konan o yekaari konan haghamo bokhoran. Khiaali ham nist, man dige injaa donbaale hagh nistam, har ghalati deleshoon mikhaad bokonan. Man faghat emaile 3, 4 nafaro doost daaram daashteh baasham ke haraaz gaahi haaleshoono beporsam, hamin.

PS: Mass, baa in jaryaan ham movaafegh nistam ke inaa khaaen nistan. Cheraa hastan. Kessi ke baa cheshme khodesh haghighat ro mibine o in chenin khodesho vaase ye mosht terrorist be aabo aatish mizane khaaen sefate. naadaani o bisavaadi ham dalil bar in nist ke aadam khaaen nabaashe. Khaaen ro vaghti migiri azash baaz jooi mikoni hamishe baa gerye zaari mige "man nemidoonestam". Doro variaaye hitler hamashoon migoftam maa nemidoonestim! Taraf aadam mindaakht too koore aadam soozi migoft "man faghat dastoor ejraa mikardam"! Man migam vaghti vaagheyat jelo sheshete o baaazam migi man "nemitoonestam", az khaaen ham khaaen tari.
 
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masoudA

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Kessi ke baa cheshme khodesh haghighat ro mibine
de nemibineh.......you have no idea the level of propaganda going on in USA these days (Canada may also be the same) .......especially in California.....they have been exposed to nothinmg but propaganda, from their newspapers to local TV's.....it is no longer like even 10 years ago...... some of these kids you can tell they benefit from associating with older Iranians who can at least on some issues provide them with alternative views.

These boyz are like the rest in generation......their brain is full of Gay rights, Environment, Abortion,.....family guy, Commedy Channel,.......their brain has no more room to think about what it means for Obama to have monitored 2000 Associated Press journalists for two months......they have zero clue what it means even if they hear it. In their brains American Right means millionaires and rednecks who hate blacks and foreigners......that's it.......and now so what if IRS has targeted the Tea Party?!!! to them this is a great move which should have been done long ago.......they can't digest the ramafications, they are just happy Obama hurt their enemy!! You live there in Germany - know better than we do - wasn't this how the whole Germany was sold and dragged into National Socialism?
 
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Too in thread o too in jaryaane Assad o Sooriye az ye mosht kos keshe tokhme sag eyne Bahonar o Flint, o iranzamin o gheyreh basharaft tare. Man moshgeli nadaaram baa inke be in baba migi bisharaf, mano vaase "moron" goftan ban kardan. Hamoon moron i ro ke be oon dayoos Kaz goftam ro age be 4Paa migoftam vaasam thanks ham mizadan. Hamintor ke to vaghti behesh migi bisharaf aab ham az aab tekoon nemikhore.

Ay ke tof too soorate palide oon dayoosi ke yekiro vaase "moron" goftan ban mikone, kessaaye digaro afv mikone. Injaa too in site ye chizi kaamelan moshakhase: Moshgel fohsh nist o naboodeh. Mohem ine ke 1- Ki fohsh mide 2- be ki fohsh mishe. Hamino bas. Vaase khodeshoon jomhoori eslaamiye ISP raah andaakhtan dayoosaa
Ay baba! Looks like someone opened the barn door again!!!!!!!!!!!
Is this guys' "contribution" to ISP that important. I don't think you guys are helping anyone particularly your membership by allowing a mentally delusional person (more than likely a ticking time-bomb) shit all over other members. Very disappointing.
 

Chinaski

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Na massoud, i am exposed to the same kind of propaganda. The western world is more or less run by the same engine but as you can see in those two threads i involved these bisavaads in, you can even find the truth sitting in the middle of the world of lies. There is no excuse, these guys know and are still defending this. Flint be sure he doesnt give a shit about Iran. He cares more about israel than iran. Be sure about that. i know its not politically correct but it is what i feel and i am pretty sure i am spot on in this one. Bihonar is just bisharaf. Really a fucked up bisharaf who by now exactly knows whats going on an is still supporting terrorists because those terrorists are supported by the west. Thats enough of a reason for that bisharaf to get on the bandwagon. Now if the West would support Assad and fight those terrorists (which would actually be the case in a healthy and careing world), the guy would be on the Assad bandwagon because he blindly support whatever the west tells him is right. The same west has fucked up iran to the tune that we have these mullahs ruling the country for over 3 decades (and still counting) and he doesnt care. This is a make up of a khaaen e vatan foroosh. These guys will do everything to make sure people dont see the guy who is fucking them up from behind. Whenever you do this, you make sure people always fight against the wrong guy. These guys are the ones who are not letting people see the truth. These guys are those who at the right time will hold up shariatis books to tell people what kind of a jewel he was. These guys are of the same stuck of likes of Khatami who smile in your face and make you believe you are civilized but behind closed doors they sign your "hokme edaam" like aabe khordan, va vaghti az dar miaan biroon dobaare mikhandan o jelo kamera dast roo sare do taa bache mikeshan. The same effin mentality. Inaa faghat aabesho nadaaran, vagarna shenaa garaaye maaheri hastan. Iran darde bozorgesh inaan, na ooni ke miaad too taasooaa aashoora too sare kachalesh mizane o rooye khodesho neshoon mide. Amsaale in martikan ke eyne maar doro vare in mellat mipelekan va be moghe nish mizanan.
 

Chinaski

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Ay baba! Looks like someone opened the barn door again!!!!!!!!!!!
Is this guys' "contribution" to ISP that important. I don't think you guys are helping anyone particularly your membership by allowing a mentally delusional person (more than likely a ticking time-bomb) shit all over other members. Very disappointing.
Ay ke Tof be goore pedare bi pedaret. Dayoose haroom zaadeh. Oonaai ke to azashoon harf mizani member nistan. Ye mosht koskeshe kesaafat sefatan eyne khode dayooset. Hichi ham vaase goftan nadaarid o nadaashtid. Ye mosht kesaafat, ye mosht aashghaal.
 
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Ay baba! Looks like someone opened the barn door again!!!!!!!!!!!
Is this guys' "contribution" to ISP that important. I don't think you guys are helping anyone particularly your membership by allowing a mentally delusional person (more than likely a ticking time-bomb) shit all over other members. Very disappointing.
LMAO. Google and Alta Vista don't even have an "Ar Ar" translator, so I'm afraid only the few people who speak "Ar Ar" on ISP (i.e. the 4Payane gang) can truly appreciate the wisdom emanating from this calm and hard-working creature.
 

shahinc

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Ay baba! Looks like someone opened the barn door again!!!!!!!!!!!
Is this guys' "contribution" to ISP that important. I don't think you guys are helping anyone particularly your membership by allowing a mentally delusional person (more than likely a ticking time-bomb) shit all over other members. Very disappointing.
It seems like he is Ban already. To get rid of him, all you have to do is to monitor 3 posts of his and you can report enough insults that gets him ban for another 2 month. It is sad how a grown man can not control himself online. Really Sad ... Even Arash, A.K.A, Hassan is doing a better job than him.
 
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masoudA

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It seems like he is Ban already. Tog get rid of him, all you have to do is to monitor 3 posts of his and you can report enough insults that gets him ban for another 2 month. It is sad how a grown man can not control himself online. Really Sad ... Even Arash, A.K.A, Hassan is doing a better job than him.
Guys - I agree there is no excuse for him to come out and insult BH, Arti, Flint...... and teh Admin had every right to ban him....
however.......I don't think anyone on ISP has yet to answer his simple question: Why should we support the Islamists fighting Assad? You can be as polite as you can be and you'd be correct to criticize his insults and attitude.....but on the issue of Assad he is absolutely correct........in the hate for Assad and IR many are siding with ISlamists......!! grave grave mistake.


China - I was looking forward to your return and to continue our discussion about who is calling the shots in Europe........damn it can't you stay unbanned for a while? Control your JUSTIFIED frustrations in ISP.
 
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Guys - I agree there is no excuse for him to come out and insult BH, Arti, Flint...... and teh Admin had every right to ban him....
however.......I don't think anyone on ISP has yet to answer his simple question: Why should we support the Islamists fighting Assad? You can be as polite as you can be and you'd be correct to criticize his insults and attitude.....but on the issue of Assad he is absolutely correct........in the hate for Assad and IR many are siding with ISlamists......!! grave grave mistake.
The question has been answered at least a dozen times in this thread and it was answered almost as many times in the thread that he opened. He just doesn't have the level of comprehension to understand the answer and gets frustrated and starts swearing. No one here, and I repeat NO ONE, is siding with "Islamists" in Syria. The only people who directly support Islamists here are "the 4Payan Gang" who support the IR, Hamas and Hezbollah - they just don't like the particular Islamists in Syria because they're jeopardizing the position of the other 3.

Other than that gang, you and China are the only ones indirectly supporting Islamism by supporting Assad. You just don't realize that in the process of hating a specific Islamic group, you're supporting 3 equally brutal and ruthless Islamic Groups, much more organized and powerful, and one of which is directly ruling your country doing much worse than what you see in these videos to your own hamvatans.

The rest of us understand the importance of Hamas, Hezbollah and Assad not only to IR's foreign policy, but their entire ideological belief system. Cutting off Assad, would cut-off the other 2 organizations and be the equivalent of chopping one of IR's limbs, not just in terms of foreign policy, but more importantly how they conduct themselves domestically. Remember that they said the 2009 protests were instigated by agents of the West (exact same line used by Assad)? And that the Egyptian, Tunisian and the Yemenis uprisings were muslim awakening in the face of western imperialism? So just put 2 and 2 together and imagine how they're going to pull themselves out of this mess.

All that aside, most people here, yourself included, support the right of a people to a free society and a democratically elected government. You don't support governments turning their guns on their citizens during peaceful demonstrations do you? Heck, you're arguing about losing your civil liberties in the other thread in such a small and insignificant manner (relatively speaking), but you go on to support a ruthless dictator, just because some Islamists are also fighting him? Does your hatred for a certain group redefine your entire belief system and bends and breaks all your principles? I hope not.

This thread is, and always was, about the fall of Assad and what it means to Iran. It's very unfortunate that Islamists have gained so much power in Syria. It's sad to see what Syria has turned into and to see the people's suffering on such a major scale. That's the last 2 years of Assad's rule for you. Another 2 years and it will be even worse than what it is now with Islamists gaining even more power. The only way to start reversing the Islamist gains in Syria is to stop the chaos, put a legitimate government in place and start stabilizing the situation. Hopefully that will come through a negotiated peace process, but if not Assad simply does not have the legitimacy to continue and this conflict needs to end as soon as possible.

You see Massi, most of us here are concerned about stopping 4 Islamist groups, whereas you and China and IR supporters are only concerned about one! I hope that answer is clear enough this time.
 
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Flint

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Why should we support the Islamists fighting Assad? .
This is a false choice that would lead to letting Assad off the hook. Instead of saying not to support Islamists, which I agree, tell me how you would proceed so it leads to Assad's removal. He and his father have been in power for more than 50 years. You will not see them this vulnerable again. He is truly on the ropes. By not suggesting an alternative to press ahead, you are effectively insuring that Assad will stay for a long time. Also remember that if Assad comes out of this, IR and Hezbollah will be crowing for a long time. They are living off Saddam's war after 35 years.
 
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Thanks buddy. I really didn't know we had to break this down to 3+1=4 to get such a simple point across. And I bet you it's still gonna go over Ban Ban's head, not to mention "Bozorg 4Payans" and we're going to hear the statement "you support Islamist terrorists" at least another two dozen times in this thread from these same people who cheer for Islamist Terrorists (i.e. Hezbollah and IRGC) fighting alongside Assad!!!
 
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the level of noise has picked up again with irrelevant comments on this thread.i would like to make a few comments and bring the audience up-to-date on what is going on in syria.since about 40 days ago when the syrian forces started gaining major ground against the jihadist terrorists,the ones who are financed and supported by nato+isreal+qatar+saudi,the aforementioned entities became very nervous and started a 2 phase plan.the first phase was to start a smearing campaign against the syrian forces by claiming they use of chemical weapons.that was quickly shut down by russia,iran and even some in the u.s..the second phase was to military get involved.so they used the criminals with the longest rap sheet in the region,e.g.the apartheid regime in isreal,and bombed major weapons depot in syria to slowdown the rout of their jihadist terrorist friends.this was a major mistake as iran quickly launched a political effort in the region and highlighted the isreali aggression causing egypt and others to condemn the attack.at the same time the jihadist terrosrists who where being decimated in syria turned to their own plan which was to try and bring turkey in the conflict by carrying out a twin terrorist attack in the border town where they were ironically being trained and armed by the turks.even this attack did not help their cause.meanwhile kerry was desperately going to moscow/ankara/london trying to get out of the jam.the rhetoric transformed from 'assad must go' to 'syrian people must decide their own future' overnight which showed the clear desperation of the ones who supported jihadist terrorist side in syria.today russia infomred obama that without iran at the table in geneva nothing will get done.so now it is decision time for obama.is he going to bring in iran and beg them and russians to get him out of this jam or is he going to listen to isrealis who are demanding under no circumstances should iran be allowed such a major political victory.by now every tom,dick and harry in the jihadist terrorist supporting side knows that without iran's participation they can not make a deal in syria.but will they be man/human enough to swallow their pride and stop the bloodshed?we shall know the answer to this question soon.
 
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هر چند که اسی خان ( چاینسکی ) روش درستی برای گفتن حرفش نداره
ولی اصل مطلبی را که میخواهد در اینجا بیان کند کاملا صحیح است
ادمین اگر کسی به من یا اشتر یا حسن وخلاصه افرادی که با این چند نفر هم عقیده نیستند فحش ودا و ناسزا گفت فوقش بعد از چند تا فحش خواهر و مادر تذکر میده
ولی وای بحال ما اگر به کسی فحش ناموسی دادیم
سریع بن میشویم
من همیشه ارزو داشتم یک حکومتی داشته باشیم که واقعا همه بتوانند حرفشان را بزنند
یک زمانی پیش خودم امریکا را الگو ی خودبی می دانستم
میدیدم مثلا از نیکسون انتقاد میکنند حتی او را محکوم میکنند
بعدها پی بردم که هرجا قدرت هست صد در صد دیکتاتوری هم بوجود خواهد امد
امریکا یا این سایت یبا هر کجای دیگر از این قانون مستثنی نیست و نخواهد بود
مثلا در امریکا میتوانی از رئیس جمهور انتقاد شدید کنی او را محاکمه هم بکنی و لی مبانی و اسس حکومت را به شکلی زیر انتقاد عملی ببری با بزرگترین دیکتاتوری مواجهه خواهی شد
دیکتاتوری که جامعه را هم بلعیده و تو نه تنها با حکومت بلکه با جامعه هم می بایستی در بیافتی
دیکتاتوری فردی از عقب افتاده ترین نوع دیکتاتوریها است و کم کم جای خود را به انواع دیگر دیکتاتوری جدید خواهد داد
این مقوله من را همیشه به یاد داشته باشید
هرجا قدرتی وجود دارد دیکتاتوری بوجود خواهد امد
 
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ولی وای بحال ما اگر به کسی فحش ناموسی دادیم
Baaz oomadi harf bezani, shart-idi. To aslan vojoodet fohshe be namoose har adami keh aghel basheh. Ageh adam behet begeh doroghgoo, fohsheh? Khob doroogh gooi. Begeh behet bache baaz fosheh vaghti khodet migi bacheh baazam? Bege behet dalghak, bad az hoon hame dalghak baaziat ba Hezbe Mehr, fekr mikoni fosheh? Na amoo, ye harfe hesabi inja nazadi keh yeki bargarde begeh in adam hesaabiye. Jamesh kon boro nemikham digeh bishtar az in khitet konam begam digeh chi mishe behet goft bad az oon dastaaneye pire marde obney keh rid roo shoomboolet.