Tehran, second worst city to live in the world

[Chinaski]

BT, just because you lived in Toronto for a long time and have a job and a condo doesnt mean you know a lot about the city. Unless you have moved up the ladder, purcahsed properties, run successfull businesses, build wealth and raised a family you wont be in a good position to br the judge.

Motvajeh shodi BT? to too toronto taa abadam bemooni o zendegi koni o bemiri, aakharesh baayad biaay az IDM beporsi ke too oon shahr chi migzare. Masalan IDM az oonjaai ke to stockholm o vienna kharido forooshe amlaak karde o business vaa karde, va az oonjaai ke too stockholm o vienna khoonevaade tashkil daade o bache bozorg karde, midoone ke in dotaa shahr socialistan o bedard nemikhoran.

Age mikhaay chiz yaad begiri, donyaa ro vel kon bechasb be in baba

 

[Bache Tehroon]

LOL!

Riaz, I don't have a condo I equate buying condos to buying "air". It's exactly that.

There are people on this site that can attest to my crazy business endeavors over the years and how some of them succeeded while the others left me hanging off cliffs. It's life and I love it. As it stands, according to the government's official stats, I seem to be doing quite well among Canadians. That automatically qualifies me as a successful person in most of the world.

My beef is not with Canada or Toronto, but rather with those who aggressively overstate the negatives of one place while turning a blind eye to the obvious shortcomings of another.

Even going by your standards, I don't find Toronto a heaven for innovative start-ups. There's no money here. I know this because I know of pending patents that make investors drool but they are so fucking scared of taking risks it's comical. Silicon Valley is where those patents continue to end up while all the money in Toronto goes into real-estate. For God's sake, did people forget about everything other than housing here? How long do they expect real-estate to sustain its returns(which have been quite a joke in the past year or so). As soon as money hits the floor of banks in Canada, a new housing project or a commercial center gets started. Nothing else stands a chance here. Nothing. Even restaurants and retail shops are now considered "too risky" for banks. I guess banks and investment firms are hoping one day people will all stay home and trade bricks in exchange for food?

 

[InDaMoneyz]

BT what was your 'crazy business endeavors' !? putting 40k in some stock?


what is so special about you for you to expect to be a millionaire in Toronto ? you are not a doctor, not a lawyer, not an investment banker or in finance , or.... you are not even an skilled worker (try finding plumbers and electricians for 100$/hr these days), you are just some avg guy in the saturated IT field - a field that is easiest to outsource. Even then I have people in my e-biz team pulling easy 80k a year.

Toronto is now home to over 150,000 iranians, majority of them are in affluent parts of the city. You can even find great number of Iranians in areas like leaside, bridlepath, bayview hills, rosedale, annex, king city, oakville by LS, old thorn hill, etc....(nothing in forrest hill yet) they are tons of them living in multi million dollar homes like kings and only jews are in greater rates in these areas. Most of these folks do not come from old money - they are self made (more recent Iranians come here with tons of stolen cash from the old country).

I have many many iranian friends in toronto who did not have bus money when in school so they walked, and worked hot dog stands in cold, worked fast-food and delivered pizza later on for money - everyone of them (except for one individual who lost everything at casinos) are now officially worth a million dollars at least - and thats in their 30s !! They have large homes and cottages, nice cars and nannies and eat at the best restaurants and have the best wine and are always on trips to flordia and the islands. I know at least 20 from highschool and university years. one or two lost everything for various reasons and a couple of the others remained single and chose to enjoy a more low profile life with lot of travel - but they are not poor by any means.

There are projects worth hundreds of million of dollars owned by Iranians in toronto. Take a look at who owns majority of young and sheppard projects or world on young and etc....'Super khorak' in that shitty ghetto plazza is worth 16 million$ for gods sake !? Most of new medical complexes in Richmond hill and many of the new large businesses there are owned by Iranians including large print houses, car dealers, restaurants, child care centers, jewelers, (not all millionaires but are doing fairly well)......
even old school Iranian ladies working at winners and first joice cutters own nice homes in Richmond hill these days!!!! lol....how did all these people get there out of nothing!?

What patent ! lol... this is not sollicon valley and even if it was howmany will end up making millions!? you my friend didnt do as well as you should have perhaps, its not reflective of what opportunities the city can bring to folks, specially folks coming from nothing ! only US and Canada offer this to anyone - even now.

These people except for in US could not replicate any of the success or the living standard they are enjoying in any other part of the world, surely not in Europe and definitely not in that shithole tehran. I just came back from Europe where I still have most of my family and I know. I know cause many of them who are highly educated and affluent would have had 5 times the life they have there here.

 

[Bache Tehroon]

Pesarjan,

You have a very robotic view of life and nothing besides money seems to trigger your senses. That's not a bad thing, but it's not shared by everybody.

 

[InDaMoneyz]

Pesarjan,

You have a very robotic view of life and nothing besides money seems to trigger your senses. That's not a bad thing, but it's not shared by everybody.

LOL..what !? Pedarjan you are the one who wants to leave the most prosperous country in the world for the most repressed country in the world (trying to convince people and yourself that tehran is indeed fantastic along the way) - ONLY because of $ and Financial reasons and potential business opportunity and I am the robotic and materialistic one !?!?! LOL

I already mentioned many times that you could not get me to leave in that shit hole for a 100mill$ ! you are confused.

 

[Bache Tehroon]

LOL..what !? Pedarjan you are the one who wants to leave the most prosperous country in the world for the most repressed country in the world (trying to convince people and yourself that tehran is indeed fantastic along the way) - ONLY because of $ and Financial reasons and potential business opportunity and I am the robotic and materialistic one !?!?! LOL

I already mentioned many times that you could not get me to leave in that shit hole for a 100mill$ ! you are confused.

Pesaram,

When did I say people should leave Toronto and live in Tehran? I said Tehran is not as bad, nor is Toronto as perfect as some claim. You came in talking about your childhood friends having delivered pizza, now being millionaires and all that irrelevant nonsense.

I said Toronto is not a good place for a typical IT start-up. You said your employees pull $80K/year?!! WTF does that have to do with what I said?

You said Jews are being overtaken by Iranians in rich neighborhoods and I'm a lowly IT engineer with the net-worth of a squirrel. All wrong assumptions and totally irrelevant to what I said.

You're here to ridicule people based on assumptions on their net-worth not to discuss the livability of cities. I should've known that.

 

[InDaMoneyz]

Pesaram,

When did I say people should leave Toronto and live in Tehran? I said Tehran is not as bad, nor is Toronto as perfect as some claim. You came in talking about your childhood friends having delivered pizza, now being millionaires and all that irrelevant nonsense.

I said Toronto is not a good place for a typical IT start-up. You said your employees pull $80K/year?!! WTF does that have to do with what I said?

You said Jews are being overtaken by Iranians in rich neighborhoods and I'm a lowly IT engineer with the net-worth of a squirrel. All wrong assumptions and totally irrelevant to what I said.

You're here to ridicule people based on assumptions on their net-worth not to discuss the livability of cities. I should've known that.

what bunch of BS! you think this conversation was about which place is good for an IT startup !!!? LOLLL...l.....then you have difficulty following a simple line of dicsussion in addition to not being able to conclude a simple point behind a couple of stories someone tells you!


This conversation was about the fact that the greatest cities are the ones that give citizens the greatest opporunities for growth and provide the best lifestyle and best in class. (we already know no city can be perfect - but thanks for the valued insight)

I gave you simple stories and stats about the iranian immigrant community in Toronto to illustrate that. That Iranians who came to toronto have for most part enjoyed unparallel success compared to other places considering who and what they were and where they are now - which is a testament to the greatness of the city rather than the community itself as Iranains in other parts of the world could have never made such big strides in such short period of time. (those in US for most part came from old money and were considerably more affluent in the first place).
this is also to show you that you can be whatever you wanna be if you really tried here, which is something im not sure you have done - why else return to a craphole like tehran?

But you dont understand these things and are unable to decipher such simple stories and facts.

I frankly dont think you have a clue about the city and maybe it is best if you returned to tehran.

By the way, how the hell does an IT start up tie into the quality of a city!? LOL, but never mind that! who even talks IT start up these days?! are you still stuck in 1998 buddy! get on with the program.

 

[Mehran(ISP)]

You speak of Tehran as if it's the promised hell for all the sinners. Give me a fucking break. Most of you know what I'm saying when I say Tehran is not much worse or better than most modern cities in today's world. Most of us who left Iran want to make ourselves feel better about our decision to leave by belittling everything that smells like Iran.

The truth is, while you were busy making those mortgage payments and car-lease payments doing 2-3 jobs in these glorious foreign cities, Tehran prospered despite the stinky Islamic regime and is a fairly livable metropolis. Maybe not as peaceful and clean as North American suburbs. Maybe not as flashy as Las Vegas. Maybe not as well preserved as Rome. Health-care is not as readily available as Scandinavian cities. Customer service is shit too. But it's fairly livable. And it provides ample business opportunities for those who are willing to take risks instead of buying US treasuries at 0% interest.

I know where you coming from. But your problem is with the Capitalistic nature of Canada, U.S, etc... You want the best of both worlds where you can have the charm of Tehran with its beauty and people around you while being able to breathe and go out and have a drink of beer afterwards which is impossible. It's real simple to me, you can choose your living style in the west. You can go live in a one bedroom apartment in Toronto without access to any credit cards, investments, or a high paying job and live a comfortable live knowing that if you get sick and need to go to a hospital in 10 minutes you can get there without anyone requiring payments before seeing you. You will die and burried in a apartment in Tehran before any of that happens. You can also live without a car and get around via public transportation if you wanted. Capitalism, along with all of it's loans, mortgages, 50 hour work week is modern slavery to people who choose to be enslaved to the sytem for a promise of stuff we don't need; i.e better car, bigger house, investments, businesses. Most of us fall into the trap because of greed but you don't need it. All of the downfalls of the capitalistic environment can be pushed to the side if you don't want any of the "wants", and you'll still live a very healthy life; much longer than anyone that lives in Tehran under the same circumstance.

 

[Niloufar]

I know where you coming from. But your problem is with the Capitalistic nature of Canada, U.S, etc... You want the best of both worlds where you can have the charm of Tehran with its beauty and people around you while being able to breathe and go out and have a drink of beer afterwards which is impossible. It's real simple to me, you can choose your living style in the west. You can go live in a one bedroom apartment in Toronto without access to any credit cards, investments, or a high paying job and live a comfortable live knowing that if you get sick and need to go to a hospital in 10 minutes you can get there without anyone requiring payments before seeing you. You will die and burried in a apartment in Tehran before any of that happens. You can also live without a car and get around via public transportation if you wanted. Capitalism, along with all of it's loans, mortgages, 50 hour work week is modern slavery to people who choose to be enslaved to the sytem for a promise of stuff we don't need; i.e better car, bigger house, investments, businesses. Most of us fall into the trap because of greed but you don't need it. All of the downfalls of the capitalistic environment can be pushed to the side if you don't want any of the "wants", and you'll still live a very healthy life; much longer than anyone that lives in Tehran under the same circumstance.

Thats not true at all Mehran. Do you know how much is the rent of a one-bedroom apartment in Toronto?! min $1200 to as much as $2500, depending on location. do u know how much is a one-bedroom apartment cost in Toronto(which is ridiculously outscores the rates in Chicago!) ? Its $350,000 to $400,000, in average. so the mortgage(with $100k down) would be around $1500.(excluding maintenance fee).

now u tell me, how can a person without having a "high-paying" job and "no access to credit-cards", and no "car" as you put it, spend $1500 a month on rent/mortgage of a one bedroom apartment in Toronto(which with all other expenses will come to $2200 expenses per month) and survive?! They simply cant..unless they work 2 jobs..one has to earn at least $50k gross income to be able to survive in this city. which its crappy transportation is worse than Montreal's(based on national stats) and its traffic jam is worse than LA. There goes the reality of Toronto's ranking in this list!

 

[InDaMoneyz]

Thats not true at all Mehran. Do you know how much is the rent of a one-bedroom apartment in Toronto?! min $1200 to as much as $2500, depending on location. do u know how much is a one-bedroom apartment cost in Toronto(which is ridiculously outscores the rates in Chicago!) ? Its $350,000 to $400,000, in average. so the mortgage(with $100k down) would be around $1500.(excluding maintenance fee).

now u tell me, how can a person without having a "high-paying" job and "no access to credit-cards", and no "car" as you put it, spend $1500 a month on rent/mortgage of a one bedroom apartment in Toronto(which with all other expenses will come to $2200 expenses per month) and survive?! They simply cant..unless they work 2 jobs..one has to earn at least $50k gross income to be able to survive in this city. which its crappy transportation is worse than Montreal's(based on national stats) and its traffic jam is worse than LA. There goes the reality of Toronto's ranking in this list!

Niloufar I dont what you do and what you earn but the median income for non immigrant families in toronto is in excess of 100k !

yes it is difficult to be a sinlge earner earning under 50k trying to live downtown or in a nice condo and be able to do everything! its a no brainer, but this is only typical if you are a young person just starting up on your own. Even then you should be able to pull 50k (which is minimum now a days for most companies hiring employees with 2 or less years in experience).

Minimum wage alone in toronto should earn you nearly 2000$/month after taxes, not much but even then if you find a roomate you can still do everything you want - and thats minimum wage! I dont think a single iranian in town works minimum wage!

Im not quite sure what you are expecting and where do you think you can have it better? in sweden cause if you earned 40k you at least have a much better public transit (assuming) !? what is your expectation and what do you think you deserve and why? your.

give me 50k a year (this is very low for any professional) and I get you a house in richmond hill where you can rent its basement and cover mtg payment, taxes and utilities and on top of it I get you a car to get around too! do you think a 500k 1 bedroom in downtown makes sense for you?

 

[Chinaski]

Mehrans post is a nice one but Mehran i think you are misjudging BT. He is not all that anti capitalistic, over the years and from what i have read from him i think he does not have any kind of aversion against a good business. I think there are other things that are causing him headaches, the same things that sometimes even makes ME wish i was there in tehran and could have a normal life among my own people where no one has the right to make you feel a foreigner no matter how long you live there in their country or how well you speak their language. Thanks to IR this has become one of our generations many diseases. These are signs of some kind of depression aswell as desperation and maybe depression BECAUSE of desperation. Sometimes we are happy with what we got in Europe or North America but there are times that we for whatever reason start getting nostalgic and wish we could change the sad realities. Age be khodemoon tavajoh konim, mibinim ta aadol nadaarim, kheyli zood depress mishim be hamoon zoodi ham dobaare khosh o sar haal mishim. I for my one believe BT is pragmatic enough to know Tehran right now is not the right place to go and live there. A sane person simply feels it. Dare mamlekato age vaa konan o began vaase hich jaa visa laazem nadaarid, 60% mellat khoone zendegiro vel mikonan dar miran. Toronto ke sahle, vaasashoon beheshte, khaabesho mibinan, haazeran beran Taashkand o baku o ghebres hamaali konan vali too oon mamlekat namoonan.

 

[InDaMoneyz]

Mehrans post is a nice one but Mehran i think you are misjudging BT. He is not all that anti capitalistic, over the years and from what i have read from him i think he does not have any kind of aversion against a good business. I think there are other things that are causing him headaches, the same things that sometimes even makes ME wish i was there in tehran and could have a normal life among my own people where no one has the right to make you feel a foreigner no matter how long you live there in their country or how well you speak their language. Thanks to IR this has become one of our generations many diseases. These are signs of some kind of depression aswell as desperation and maybe depression BECAUSE of desperation. Sometimes we are happy with what we got in Europe or North America but there are times that we for whatever reason start getting nostalgic and wish we could change the sad realities. Age be khodemoon tavajoh konim, mibinim ta aadol nadaarim, kheyli zood depress mishim be hamoon zoodi ham dobaare khosh o sar haal mishim. I for my one believe BT is pragmatic enough to know Tehran right now is not the right place to go and live there. A sane person simply feels it. Dare mamlekato age vaa konan o began vaase hich jaa visa laazem nadaarid, 60% mellat khoone zendegiro vel mikonan dar miran. Toronto ke sahle, vaasashoon beheshte, khaabesho mibinan, haazeran beran Taashkand o baku o ghebres hamaali konan vali too oon mamlekat namoonan.

More misinformation and confusion!

my hommie, I can guarantee that toronto and in general canada are the most accepting, loving places on earth where you will never feel alienated or as a 'foreigner'! this concept does not exist here - this is not europe! you will even feel more at home in toronto than tehran I guarantee!

canada particularly toronto accepts you for who you are because it is based on people like us, thats why when canada wins a hockey game Iranians are the first to hang up a flag on their cars pouring out proudly and genuinely - cause this is their country - not Iran! Iranians in europe for most part have feelings of resentment towards their countries, at the end of the day they will always feel like guests in these european countries and thats the truth. I was born and raised there and still have close ties to most countries there and know for fact how different Iranian canadians feel. Its something people from europe will never understand unless they live here. Canada to most iranians is more of a country than Iran ever was ! it is truely the land of the free.

This is not BTs problem, his is economical and some social I feel. I think he feels a little squeezed and perhaps alone and rightfully thinks that he should have been much better of, which we all think, but feels frustrated. BT you got family and friends here? where do you live and how old are you? (this is dr IDM right now).

 

[Bache Tehroon]

I know where you coming from. But your problem is with the Capitalistic nature of Canada, U.S, etc... You want the best of both worlds where you can have the charm of Tehran with its beauty and people around you while being able to breathe and go out and have a drink of beer afterwards which is impossible. It's real simple to me, you can choose your living style in the west. You can go live in a one bedroom apartment in Toronto without access to any credit cards, investments, or a high paying job and live a comfortable live knowing that if you get sick and need to go to a hospital in 10 minutes you can get there without anyone requiring payments before seeing you. You will die and burried in a apartment in Tehran before any of that happens. You can also live without a car and get around via public transportation if you wanted. Capitalism, along with all of it's loans, mortgages, 50 hour work week is modern slavery to people who choose to be enslaved to the sytem for a promise of stuff we don't need; i.e better car, bigger house, investments, businesses. Most of us fall into the trap because of greed but you don't need it. All of the downfalls of the capitalistic environment can be pushed to the side if you don't want any of the "wants", and you'll still live a very healthy life; much longer than anyone that lives in Tehran under the same circumstance.

My problem is with the ever growing perception that the lifestyle imposed by the capitalist system is "right", "better" and sometimes a "must" for humanity. I don't agree that migrating to a new country in search of a "better life" is a good idea in the long run. I don't think the livability of a certain location on Earth can be determined by the set of criteria used in this ranking.

And I certainly don't believe Iranians who left Iran in the past 30 years made the right decision for themselves or their homeland.

It's too late for someone like me to go back and live in Iran. I have no desire to after having spent more than half of my life here. I'm as much a stranger to Iran as I am to Canada at this point. Yes I feel like a stranger to my surroundings no matter where I go in the world despite having a marvelous income, little debt, a fairly comfortable lifestyle and surrounded by my family.

Articles and rankings like this only help create more people like me in the future generations. I don't find it a noble prospect.

 

[Niloufar]

Niloufar I dont what you do and what you earn but the median income for non immigrant families in toronto is in excess of 100k !

yes it is difficult to be a sinlge earner earning under 50k trying to live downtown or in a nice condo and be able to do everything! its a no brainer, but this is only typical if you are a young person just starting up on your own. Even then you should be able to pull 50k (which is minimum now a days for most companies hiring employees with 2 or less years in experience).

Minimum wage alone in toronto should earn you nearly 2000$/month after taxes, not much but even then if you find a roomate you can still do everything you want - and thats minimum wage! I dont think a single iranian in town works minimum wage!

Im not quite sure what you are expecting and where do you think you can have it better? in sweden cause if you earned 40k you at least have a much better public transit (assuming) !? what is your expectation and what do you think you deserve and why? your.

give me 50k a year (this is very low for any professional) and I get you a house in richmond hill where you can rent its basement and cover mtg payment, taxes and utilities and on top of it I get you a car to get around too! do you think a 500k 1 bedroom in downtown makes sense for you?

IDM jan,

Mehran mentioned "a comfortable living style" in Toronto, with a one-bedroom apartment(not basement of a house!), no car and no credit card and I mentioned the Realities of this expensive city, which a person cannot survive with those conditions in Toronto, let alone a comfortable living style. Hence thats why many residents have migrated to smaller cities or rural areas..

Not really, if one earns minimum wage here($10.25), before taxes he/she will earn $1600 per month, not $2000. so he has to rent a basement + pay all transportation/grocery/cell phone costs. so that leaves him with max $100-200 extra per month!

And I know many Iranians living with minimum wages, working in Loblaws, retail stores,etc which barely pay more than $11 per hour. but bc they live in Canada, they bear the difficulty..
and I know many non-Iranians who are just surviving, having to work 2 jobs,etc. I know some kindergarten teachers who were working Fulltime at public school and part time at Sears/Bay! just bc they cant afford their families' expenses(despite both husband-wife working).and they were living a very cost-efficient lifestyle.

but I know many Iranians who have their own businesses in North York-richmondhill, live a comfy lifestyle, their commuting is not more than 5 min from their house to the store/business, and they have never taken a bus-subway ride, nor have they ever worked for an employer in this city..Thats being out of touch with how rest of the ppl live in this city. and frankly, those ppl cant make good judgement on how great city of Toronto is.

 

[Bache Tehroon]

More misinformation and confusion!

my hommie, I can guarantee that toronto and in general canada are the most accepting, loving places on earth where you will never feel alienated or as a 'foreigner'! this concept does not exist here - this is not europe! you will even feel more at home in toronto than tehran I guarantee!

canada particularly toronto accepts you for who you are because it is based on people like us, thats why when canada wins a hockey game Iranians are the first to hang up a flag on their cars pouring out proudly and genuinely - cause this is their country - not Iran! Iranians in europe for most part have feelings of resentment towards their countries, at the end of the day they will always feel like guests in these european countries and thats the truth. I was born and raised there and still have close ties to most countries there and know for fact how different Iranian canadians feel. Its something people from europe will never understand unless they live here. Canada to most iranians is more of a country than Iran ever was ! it is truely the land of the free.

This is not BTs problem, his is economical and some social I feel. I think he feels a little squeezed and perhaps alone and rightfully thinks that he should have been much better of, which we all think, but feels frustrated. BT you got family and friends here? where do you live and how old are you? (this is dr IDM right now).

nonsense on top of nonsense.

Dr. Networth,

You seem to be living in a computer game with a picture of downtown-Toronto in its background and a bunch of happy K**khol characters running around with Canadian flags in the foreground.

Where do you get your assumptions and (mis)information from?!

Toronto is an accepting city alright, and yes immigrants generally feel more confident in social situations than they would in Europe, but get your head out of your ass and smell reality. Toronto is one miserable, culture-less city with absolutely nothing to offer to those who desire more than just capital.

I don't have financial problems. I have all of my family here. I live a much more fulfilling life than you could dream of living, but unlike you, I don't settle for anything. I'm always in search of better things. I fulfilled my money ambitions a long time ago. Now I'm into deeper things. Once you get to where I am, give me a call. I'll buy you a beer and we'll joke about your baseless arrogance

 

[Chinaski]

IDM, pessar jaan enghad mazze parooni nakon ke haalo hoselato nadaaram. I just mentioned one of many problems we have and it could bother BT aswell, i know americans who call iranians camel jockey and you yourself somewhere wrote in Canada iranians dont want to be in neighborhood of Pakis or indians and you can be sure there are enough canadians who feel the same. Dont even start this BS of trying to make canadians or americans look like angels who just wait for us iranians to come to their land and use their infrastructure and opportunities. Aasemoon hame jaa aabiye, hame jaa racist vojood daare, ye jaa kamtar ye jaa bishtar but at the end of the day there is always something deep down in you that makes you not feel completely home in abroad, no matter if in US, Canada, Australia or Europe. I am actually known for being one of those who are very well integrated and to be honest i dont miss all those things BT is missing but still there are moments of silence where i ask myself why could this not be my own country? Why do i have to be here and learn their language and their way of life instead of staying in my own country and live my own iranian life? Back then Israeli technicians, Korean truck drivers, turkish facility managers came to Iran and applied for working permit. Iran was a country that started to become interessting for alot of people, to come to work and earn money. Today iranians go to US and quit teaching their children the persian language. I know disgusting young iranians who try to talk that black slang while chewing a gum and feel like kaaseye daagh tar az aash telling me "we are americans, where ever we go to, we are respected". You remind me of that kind of degenerated iranian generation who try hard and everything possible or impossible just to make the hosts to accept them as one of their own.

One thing is undisputable, alot of these countries did more good to us than our own country iran but nevertheless, we are more or less benefiting from an advanced system where your rights are somehow protected because laws are still executed in first world countries. Sometimes people around you are not as liberal and careing as the laws of that country. I know americans who dont give a fuck about any hispanic, iranian or arab but they know they cant do anything about the laws and the constitution which will protect the rights of him aswell as the rights of those hispanics or whatever ethnic group. A person like that may not be able to harm you seriously (because of the laws) but he can make you feel a foreighner here and there and on certain occations and this kind of person you find in europe aswell as in Canada and America. Period.

However we are fading away from the original subject. Its you and BT again. haalaa hey roo asaabesh raah boro

 

[InDaMoneyz]

Mr 'IT Startup', chisk and Niloufar,

Im sorry to say but failure is written all over you ! dont give me BS and stories about how successfull you are ! lol...chelsk and BT are just a couple of losers who come on the internet to vent frustration.
You two sore losers should go back to tehran - you belong there, infact BT why dont you just get the hell outta here and go back, you dont deserve to be here and in fact are taking the place of some poor guy who is deparate and can make something out of himself! this is borderline criminal for you to be herre while people are desparate to come here.
lot of oghde at all levels is obvious in you and I guarantee you are nothing and will be nothing here - dont tell me you got shit going on - YEH RIGHT LOL..... Go back and start that 'IT start up' that is gonna make you a whole wack in your beautifull tehran and dont come back please.

BT is a perfect example of these biklass bach iranis who came here who live as if they are still in iran.

That dummy chesk has never ever even lived here or been and has opinions about it! what level of low intelligence and ignorance ! they still call you ausslaender there dont they!? well they are righ you are one - I am not and thats priceless!

The funny thing: i guarantee I am closer to iranain heritage and know about that land than these wanna be losers who would sell their souls for a few extra bucks. Just go back and be among your muslim brothers would you?

BT and chesk, I could buy you two with my eyes closed! I got 12 kids like you working in one of my offices alone and was going to offer you two losers something but you blew it! lol...

 

[Bache Tehroon]

LOL!!!! See my friends in the football forum? That's all it takes to make him cry

 

[OSTAD POOYA]

Oghdeh and lies are written all over this [FONT=&quot]indamoney and his personality and his football knowledge is something of that low kind as well. A person that cannot have a respectful conversation with anyone and is fast on the trigger to claim many of his successes which no one knows if its true. Successful characters do not go around advertising their success or making it seem 100 times what’s real. If you knew anything about business you would not claim min wage is 2k a month as where with the minimum wage of 10 per hour its 1600 as indicated. I do not know what the tax rate is in Canada but I am sure it would bring down the 1600 level as well when considering taxes. You lack simple mathematic skills and claim you run businesses and people under you. I have seen people like you who go around just bsing and putting up horse shit just to think they are someone worth of value. I did not want to enter this conversation but your lack of respect, lies, and character assassination and attempts to belittle others should be stopped. I think you should just stick to English football. [/FONT]

 

[InDaMoneyz]

BT I wish you could say something bad about canada to my face, I punch you so hard your unappreciative oghdeye immigrant ars would fly on a one way ticket to islamic republic of tehran! I hate freak hate these types, bad mouth everything about this place but as soon as their ass is stuck in some war or with sickness godforbid guess what they scream for? Canada! Never fails