With Saudis so pissed off it could be the other way around. I also think Israel is pretty happy. Remember Netanyahu's foolish drawing in the UN? 5% was not his red line. The whole show of displeasure is orchestrated to help IRI sell the deal domestically. IRI is also happy because they finally traded their cards for something, maybe security, before they lose value all together. Iranians were not the clear winners but this loss did not happen last night. The real damage happened 35 years ago and last night's deal is just a manifestation of how mullahs screwed the destiny of our nation. As for the face value of the deal, I take it over the war any day. Just people must use the momentum to also make human rights and democracy also back to the agenda.
ME jaan - you could very well be right......I hope it is the other way around........I hope USA gives up this foolish idea of running Qatar natural gas to the Mediterranean Sea.........I hope the one that got screwed here are KSA clan.......As I said, let's look into what happens in Syria in the next few weeks.
I'm guessing asking you for a source for all this will be a futile attempt and get the usual Googool it yourself response?! 
All I've seen so far is $1.5 billions USD relief on gold trade and another $1.3 billion USD total for the auto and petrochemical industries, all of which go directly to the pockets of Sepah. Another $4.2 billion USD (for a total of $7 billion) will come from release of oil sales in installments which again go straight into the pockets of Sepah.
It's irrelevant when the announcement was made. Iran had acquired the level of technology to produce LEU and HEU in 2003 and like you correctly pointed out, the right was for enrichment - no one specified any levels at the time - meaning Iran was asking for rights to enrichment without any limits, including up to and exceeding 20%.
Great, now you're agreeing with Bibi, AIPAC and hard core Republicans, what's next?!
Frankly, the only zoor I see on Iranians is from the regime. If anything, this deal just showed how reasonable the rest of the world is in dealing with us, even if we had half decent representatives with a half reasonable approach to these situations rather than banging their chests like Baboons. So, as it turns out, the same world that we were calling enemies till yesterday is not actually our enemy and willing to work with us - rather, the enemy is within for not wanting to work with the rest of the world. Without that enemy, we'd just be enjoying our rights and would not have to sign deals to reinforce those rights! Baleh jaanam.
All I've seen so far is $1.5 billions USD relief on gold trade and another $1.3 billion USD total for the auto and petrochemical industries, all of which go directly to the pockets of Sepah. Another $4.2 billion USD (for a total of $7 billion) will come from release of oil sales in installments which again go straight into the pockets of Sepah.
It's irrelevant when the announcement was made. Iran had acquired the level of technology to produce LEU and HEU in 2003 and like you correctly pointed out, the right was for enrichment - no one specified any levels at the time - meaning Iran was asking for rights to enrichment without any limits, including up to and exceeding 20%.
Great, now you're agreeing with Bibi, AIPAC and hard core Republicans, what's next?!
Frankly, the only zoor I see on Iranians is from the regime. If anything, this deal just showed how reasonable the rest of the world is in dealing with us, even if we had half decent representatives with a half reasonable approach to these situations rather than banging their chests like Baboons. So, as it turns out, the same world that we were calling enemies till yesterday is not actually our enemy and willing to work with us - rather, the enemy is within for not wanting to work with the rest of the world. Without that enemy, we'd just be enjoying our rights and would not have to sign deals to reinforce those rights! Baleh jaanam.
This agreement is good news not because of the economic relief it provides (which is more psychological) or because it's a victory for our sovereign nuclear rights (which is supported in this agreement). It's good news because a) it brings openness and engagement to a society that lives under dictatorship, and b) it sidelines hardline crazies domestically (and internationally).
SYRIA GOVERNMENT WELCOMES IRAN NUCLEAR DEAL
By ALBERT AJI
— Nov. 24, 2013 4:45 AM EST
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DAMASCUS, Syria (AP) — Syria's state media says Damascus welcomes the international community's nuclear deal with Iran, calling it a "historic agreement."
Iran agreed with the U.S. and five other world powers to a temporary freeze of its nuclear program for six months in exchange for limited and gradual sanctions relief.
Iran is a chief backer of President Bashar Assad's government.
Activists fear the deal will take international pressure off of Iran and embolden Syria's government to use an even harder hand to quash the 3-year-old uprising.
The Sunday report from SANA, a mouthpiece for the views of Assad's government, quoted an unnamed Foreign Ministry official
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هیات دولت امارات از توافق مقدماتی در خصوص برنامه***ی هسته***یی ایران استقبال کرد.
بنا بر گزارش خبرگزاری امارات (وام) هیات دولت امارات امروز یکشنبه در جلسه هفتگی***اش از توافق مقدماتی بر سر برنامه هسته***یی ایران استقبال و اعلام کرد که این توافق را گامی در جهت یک توافق دایمی برای حفظ ثبات در منطقه، جلوگیری از وقوع بحران و خطر انتشار سلاح***های هسته***یی می***داند.
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Israel Says Iran Deal 'Historic Mistake' that Gave it 'Greatest Diplomatic Victory'
by Naharnet Newsdesk 10 hours ago
Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday slammed a nuclear deal between Iran and world powers as a "historic mistake,” his spokesman said.
"PM Netanyahu: What was achieved yesterday in Geneva is not a historic agreement but rather a historic mistake," Ofir Gendelman posted on his official Twitter account, quoting Netanyahu's comments to a weekly cabinet meeting.
Earlier, Netanyahu's office said the deal was "bad" as Tehran had obtained "what it wanted."
"This is a bad agreement that gives Iran what it wanted: the partial lifting of sanctions while maintaining an essential part of its nuclear program," said a statement published a few hours after the historic accord was signed in the Swiss city.
"The agreement allows Iran to continue to enrich uranium, leaves the centrifuges in place and allows it to produce fissile material for a nuclear weapon," it added.
"The accord did not lead to the dismantling of the Arak plant,” the heavy water reactor being built 240 kilometers (150 miles) southwest of Tehran.
"Economic pressure on Iran could have produced a much better agreement that would have led to a dismantling of Iran's nuclear capacities."
Israel's President Shimon Peres was more cautious in his response, pointing to the fact the agreement was "an interim deal" which allowed time for a diplomatic solution.
In a statement, however, he did not rule out a military response.
"Reject terrorism,"***Peres***pleaded with the Iranian people. "Stop the nuclear program. Stop the development of long-range missiles. Israel like others in the international community prefers a diplomatic solution.
"But ... if the diplomatic path fails, the nuclear option will be prevented by other means," Peres warned.
Earlier on Sunday, Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman said the deal has handed Iran its "greatest diplomatic victory."
"This agreement is the greatest diplomatic victory of Iran, which has gained recognition for its so-called legitimate right to enrich uranium," Lieberman told public radio.
The historic deal came after five days of intensive negotiations in Geneva between Iranian interlocutors and high-ranking delegations from the United States, Britain, France, China and Russia plus Germany in the grouping known as the P5+1.
Israel's Economy Minister Naftali Bennett, the leader of a far-right party, meanwhile said his country was not bound by the Geneva deal and had a right to self-defense.
"Iran is threatening Israel and Israel has the right to defend itself," he told a military radio station.
Cabinet minister for intelligence issues, Yuval Steinitz, also said the last-minute changes to the deal were "far from satisfactory" and did nothing to change Israel's position.
"This agreement is still bad and will make it more difficult than before to achieve an appropriate solution in the future," he said. Instead, he compared it to a failed 2007 international deal with North Korea and said it "is more likely to bring Iran closer to having a bomb."
"Israel***cannot participate in the international celebration, which is based on Iranian deception and (international) self-delusion," said Steinitz, whose responsibilities include monitoring Iran's nuclear program.
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— Nov. 24, 2013 4:45 AM EST
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DAMASCUS, Syria (AP) — Syria's state media says Damascus welcomes the international community's nuclear deal with Iran, calling it a "historic agreement."
Iran agreed with the U.S. and five other world powers to a temporary freeze of its nuclear program for six months in exchange for limited and gradual sanctions relief.
Iran is a chief backer of President Bashar Assad's government.
Activists fear the deal will take international pressure off of Iran and embolden Syria's government to use an even harder hand to quash the 3-year-old uprising.
The Sunday report from SANA, a mouthpiece for the views of Assad's government, quoted an unnamed Foreign Ministry official
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هیات دولت امارات از توافق مقدماتی در خصوص برنامه***ی هسته***یی ایران استقبال کرد.
بنا بر گزارش خبرگزاری امارات (وام) هیات دولت امارات امروز یکشنبه در جلسه هفتگی***اش از توافق مقدماتی بر سر برنامه هسته***یی ایران استقبال و اعلام کرد که این توافق را گامی در جهت یک توافق دایمی برای حفظ ثبات در منطقه، جلوگیری از وقوع بحران و خطر انتشار سلاح***های هسته***یی می***داند.
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Israel Says Iran Deal 'Historic Mistake' that Gave it 'Greatest Diplomatic Victory'
by Naharnet Newsdesk 10 hours ago
Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday slammed a nuclear deal between Iran and world powers as a "historic mistake,” his spokesman said.
"PM Netanyahu: What was achieved yesterday in Geneva is not a historic agreement but rather a historic mistake," Ofir Gendelman posted on his official Twitter account, quoting Netanyahu's comments to a weekly cabinet meeting.
Earlier, Netanyahu's office said the deal was "bad" as Tehran had obtained "what it wanted."
"This is a bad agreement that gives Iran what it wanted: the partial lifting of sanctions while maintaining an essential part of its nuclear program," said a statement published a few hours after the historic accord was signed in the Swiss city.
"The agreement allows Iran to continue to enrich uranium, leaves the centrifuges in place and allows it to produce fissile material for a nuclear weapon," it added.
"The accord did not lead to the dismantling of the Arak plant,” the heavy water reactor being built 240 kilometers (150 miles) southwest of Tehran.
"Economic pressure on Iran could have produced a much better agreement that would have led to a dismantling of Iran's nuclear capacities."
Israel's President Shimon Peres was more cautious in his response, pointing to the fact the agreement was "an interim deal" which allowed time for a diplomatic solution.
In a statement, however, he did not rule out a military response.
"Reject terrorism,"***Peres***pleaded with the Iranian people. "Stop the nuclear program. Stop the development of long-range missiles. Israel like others in the international community prefers a diplomatic solution.
"But ... if the diplomatic path fails, the nuclear option will be prevented by other means," Peres warned.
Earlier on Sunday, Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman said the deal has handed Iran its "greatest diplomatic victory."
"This agreement is the greatest diplomatic victory of Iran, which has gained recognition for its so-called legitimate right to enrich uranium," Lieberman told public radio.
The historic deal came after five days of intensive negotiations in Geneva between Iranian interlocutors and high-ranking delegations from the United States, Britain, France, China and Russia plus Germany in the grouping known as the P5+1.
Israel's Economy Minister Naftali Bennett, the leader of a far-right party, meanwhile said his country was not bound by the Geneva deal and had a right to self-defense.
"Iran is threatening Israel and Israel has the right to defend itself," he told a military radio station.
Cabinet minister for intelligence issues, Yuval Steinitz, also said the last-minute changes to the deal were "far from satisfactory" and did nothing to change Israel's position.
"This agreement is still bad and will make it more difficult than before to achieve an appropriate solution in the future," he said. Instead, he compared it to a failed 2007 international deal with North Korea and said it "is more likely to bring Iran closer to having a bomb."
"Israel***cannot participate in the international celebration, which is based on Iranian deception and (international) self-delusion," said Steinitz, whose responsibilities include monitoring Iran's nuclear program.
SYRIA GOVERNMENT WELCOMES IRAN NUCLEAR DEAL
By ALBERT AJI
— Nov. 24, 2013 4:45 AM EST
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DAMASCUS, Syria (AP) — Syria's state media says Damascus welcomes the international community's nuclear deal with Iran, calling it a "historic agreement."
Iran agreed with the U.S. and five other world powers to a temporary freeze of its nuclear program for six months in exchange for limited and gradual sanctions relief.
Iran is a chief backer of President Bashar Assad's government.
Activists fear the deal will take international pressure off of Iran and embolden Syria's government to use an even harder hand to quash the 3-year-old uprising.
The Sunday report from SANA, a mouthpiece for the views of Assad's government, quoted an unnamed Foreign Ministry official
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هیات دولت امارات از توافق مقدماتی در خصوص برنامه***ی هسته***یی ایران استقبال کرد.
بنا بر گزارش خبرگزاری امارات (وام) هیات دولت امارات امروز یکشنبه در جلسه هفتگی***اش از توافق مقدماتی بر سر برنامه هسته***یی ایران استقبال و اعلام کرد که این توافق را گامی در جهت یک توافق دایمی برای حفظ ثبات در منطقه، جلوگیری از وقوع بحران و خطر انتشار سلاح***های هسته***یی می***داند.
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Israel Says Iran Deal 'Historic Mistake' that Gave it 'Greatest Diplomatic Victory'
by Naharnet Newsdesk 10 hours ago
Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday slammed a nuclear deal between Iran and world powers as a "historic mistake,” his spokesman said.
"PM Netanyahu: What was achieved yesterday in Geneva is not a historic agreement but rather a historic mistake," Ofir Gendelman posted on his official Twitter account, quoting Netanyahu's comments to a weekly cabinet meeting.
Earlier, Netanyahu's office said the deal was "bad" as Tehran had obtained "what it wanted."
"This is a bad agreement that gives Iran what it wanted: the partial lifting of sanctions while maintaining an essential part of its nuclear program," said a statement published a few hours after the historic accord was signed in the Swiss city.
"The agreement allows Iran to continue to enrich uranium, leaves the centrifuges in place and allows it to produce fissile material for a nuclear weapon," it added.
"The accord did not lead to the dismantling of the Arak plant,” the heavy water reactor being built 240 kilometers (150 miles) southwest of Tehran.
"Economic pressure on Iran could have produced a much better agreement that would have led to a dismantling of Iran's nuclear capacities."
Israel's President Shimon Peres was more cautious in his response, pointing to the fact the agreement was "an interim deal" which allowed time for a diplomatic solution.
In a statement, however, he did not rule out a military response.
"Reject terrorism,"***Peres***pleaded with the Iranian people. "Stop the nuclear program. Stop the development of long-range missiles. Israel like others in the international community prefers a diplomatic solution.
"But ... if the diplomatic path fails, the nuclear option will be prevented by other means," Peres warned.
Earlier on Sunday, Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman said the deal has handed Iran its "greatest diplomatic victory."
"This agreement is the greatest diplomatic victory of Iran, which has gained recognition for its so-called legitimate right to enrich uranium," Lieberman told public radio.
The historic deal came after five days of intensive negotiations in Geneva between Iranian interlocutors and high-ranking delegations from the United States, Britain, France, China and Russia plus Germany in the grouping known as the P5+1.
Israel's Economy Minister Naftali Bennett, the leader of a far-right party, meanwhile said his country was not bound by the Geneva deal and had a right to self-defense.
"Iran is threatening Israel and Israel has the right to defend itself," he told a military radio station.
Cabinet minister for intelligence issues, Yuval Steinitz, also said the last-minute changes to the deal were "far from satisfactory" and did nothing to change Israel's position.
"This agreement is still bad and will make it more difficult than before to achieve an appropriate solution in the future," he said. Instead, he compared it to a failed 2007 international deal with North Korea and said it "is more likely to bring Iran closer to having a bomb."
"Israel***cannot participate in the international celebration, which is based on Iranian deception and (international) self-delusion," said Steinitz, whose responsibilities include monitoring Iran's nuclear program.
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— Nov. 24, 2013 4:45 AM EST
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DAMASCUS, Syria (AP) — Syria's state media says Damascus welcomes the international community's nuclear deal with Iran, calling it a "historic agreement."
Iran agreed with the U.S. and five other world powers to a temporary freeze of its nuclear program for six months in exchange for limited and gradual sanctions relief.
Iran is a chief backer of President Bashar Assad's government.
Activists fear the deal will take international pressure off of Iran and embolden Syria's government to use an even harder hand to quash the 3-year-old uprising.
The Sunday report from SANA, a mouthpiece for the views of Assad's government, quoted an unnamed Foreign Ministry official
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هیات دولت امارات از توافق مقدماتی در خصوص برنامه***ی هسته***یی ایران استقبال کرد.
بنا بر گزارش خبرگزاری امارات (وام) هیات دولت امارات امروز یکشنبه در جلسه هفتگی***اش از توافق مقدماتی بر سر برنامه هسته***یی ایران استقبال و اعلام کرد که این توافق را گامی در جهت یک توافق دایمی برای حفظ ثبات در منطقه، جلوگیری از وقوع بحران و خطر انتشار سلاح***های هسته***یی می***داند.
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Israel Says Iran Deal 'Historic Mistake' that Gave it 'Greatest Diplomatic Victory'
by Naharnet Newsdesk 10 hours ago
Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday slammed a nuclear deal between Iran and world powers as a "historic mistake,” his spokesman said.
"PM Netanyahu: What was achieved yesterday in Geneva is not a historic agreement but rather a historic mistake," Ofir Gendelman posted on his official Twitter account, quoting Netanyahu's comments to a weekly cabinet meeting.
Earlier, Netanyahu's office said the deal was "bad" as Tehran had obtained "what it wanted."
"This is a bad agreement that gives Iran what it wanted: the partial lifting of sanctions while maintaining an essential part of its nuclear program," said a statement published a few hours after the historic accord was signed in the Swiss city.
"The agreement allows Iran to continue to enrich uranium, leaves the centrifuges in place and allows it to produce fissile material for a nuclear weapon," it added.
"The accord did not lead to the dismantling of the Arak plant,” the heavy water reactor being built 240 kilometers (150 miles) southwest of Tehran.
"Economic pressure on Iran could have produced a much better agreement that would have led to a dismantling of Iran's nuclear capacities."
Israel's President Shimon Peres was more cautious in his response, pointing to the fact the agreement was "an interim deal" which allowed time for a diplomatic solution.
In a statement, however, he did not rule out a military response.
"Reject terrorism,"***Peres***pleaded with the Iranian people. "Stop the nuclear program. Stop the development of long-range missiles. Israel like others in the international community prefers a diplomatic solution.
"But ... if the diplomatic path fails, the nuclear option will be prevented by other means," Peres warned.
Earlier on Sunday, Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman said the deal has handed Iran its "greatest diplomatic victory."
"This agreement is the greatest diplomatic victory of Iran, which has gained recognition for its so-called legitimate right to enrich uranium," Lieberman told public radio.
The historic deal came after five days of intensive negotiations in Geneva between Iranian interlocutors and high-ranking delegations from the United States, Britain, France, China and Russia plus Germany in the grouping known as the P5+1.
Israel's Economy Minister Naftali Bennett, the leader of a far-right party, meanwhile said his country was not bound by the Geneva deal and had a right to self-defense.
"Iran is threatening Israel and Israel has the right to defend itself," he told a military radio station.
Cabinet minister for intelligence issues, Yuval Steinitz, also said the last-minute changes to the deal were "far from satisfactory" and did nothing to change Israel's position.
"This agreement is still bad and will make it more difficult than before to achieve an appropriate solution in the future," he said. Instead, he compared it to a failed 2007 international deal with North Korea and said it "is more likely to bring Iran closer to having a bomb."
"Israel***cannot participate in the international celebration, which is based on Iranian deception and (international) self-delusion," said Steinitz, whose responsibilities include monitoring Iran's nuclear program.
Here is how I see the big picture:
With the latest round of sanctions there was immense pressure on the IR leadership to make a compromise. This was not about the suffering of how many Iranians, saving face, or having the right to enrich uranium. The akhoonds have realized that AN's approach of creating constant tension with the west was not good for their money pockets.
So Khamenei and the rest of IR leadership set up the election circus which Rohani was supposed to win decisively in the first round to make it appear that Iranian people had wanted change and are still participants in choosing their own guidance. Then using the momentum generated by the Rohani win Khamenei reached out to the west in hopes of striking an agreement quick. There was nothing face saving about this breakthrough. Iran pretty much ignored the international community for years, got reprimanded for it, and they finally came forward and accepted not to behave like that again. (6 months)
Here is the important point i am trying to make. Rohani is the president because Khamenei wanted him to be, and this agreement was reached because Khamenei wanted it. You seriously have to very naive and perhaps just woke up from a long sleep to claim this is a victory by Iranian people, nothing happens in Iran's political decision making without Khamenei wanting it.
So where do we go from here? This will ease some pressure on the IR leadership, with the threat of war removed they can very well continue their oppressive ways domestically. Do not expect any revolutionary social freedoms, Rohani came and did his job like he was suppose to do.
With the latest round of sanctions there was immense pressure on the IR leadership to make a compromise. This was not about the suffering of how many Iranians, saving face, or having the right to enrich uranium. The akhoonds have realized that AN's approach of creating constant tension with the west was not good for their money pockets.
So Khamenei and the rest of IR leadership set up the election circus which Rohani was supposed to win decisively in the first round to make it appear that Iranian people had wanted change and are still participants in choosing their own guidance. Then using the momentum generated by the Rohani win Khamenei reached out to the west in hopes of striking an agreement quick. There was nothing face saving about this breakthrough. Iran pretty much ignored the international community for years, got reprimanded for it, and they finally came forward and accepted not to behave like that again. (6 months)
Here is the important point i am trying to make. Rohani is the president because Khamenei wanted him to be, and this agreement was reached because Khamenei wanted it. You seriously have to very naive and perhaps just woke up from a long sleep to claim this is a victory by Iranian people, nothing happens in Iran's political decision making without Khamenei wanting it.
So where do we go from here? This will ease some pressure on the IR leadership, with the threat of war removed they can very well continue their oppressive ways domestically. Do not expect any revolutionary social freedoms, Rohani came and did his job like he was suppose to do.
I have to say I'm pretty impressed by IR's tactic of "be marg begir ke be tab raazi beshan".
If people recall, initially Iran wanted the West to recognize its right to enrich Uranium up to 5% for the power plant in Bandar Abbas and to have access to the full cycle of nuclear energy.
The last time Iran agreed to freeze its nuclear activities (about a decade or so ago) it was enriching Uranium only to 5% level. When the West didn't honor its agreement Iran moved its enrichment up to 20% which no body thought they could or even would dare to do (given all the huffing and puffing from US and Israel regarding military options and threatening to hit Iran in Spring, Summer and then definitely in the coming Fall and Winter).
Now after all these bullshit posturing the 5+1 has essentially said "fine, you can enrich up to 5% and keep your R&D programs and keep half of the 20% enriched uranium for Tehran reactor but you have to downgrade the other half of your 20% stockpile and do not proceed with any R&D or activity that may get you close to a bomb (which Iran has been saying from beginning has no interest in).
Essentially by upping the enrichment to 20% (which BTW occurred under Ahmadinejad's term and who took all the criticism and pressure that came with it) Iran offered the other side the option of death so that today they'd be happy with living with just a fever. And one has to give credit to the Iranian armed forces for their steadfastness and readiness during this time which essentially took away the military option from the other side despite their claim that it was on the table and at the time when two of Iran's neighbors on the West and East of it were attacked and demolished by those forces.
I suspect in 6 months if the other side doesn't honor its commitment Iran will probably start Arak's reactor and start producing plutonium so that 5+1 would be happy with Iran just enriching uranium up to 20% and not producing any further plutonium!
If people recall, initially Iran wanted the West to recognize its right to enrich Uranium up to 5% for the power plant in Bandar Abbas and to have access to the full cycle of nuclear energy.
The last time Iran agreed to freeze its nuclear activities (about a decade or so ago) it was enriching Uranium only to 5% level. When the West didn't honor its agreement Iran moved its enrichment up to 20% which no body thought they could or even would dare to do (given all the huffing and puffing from US and Israel regarding military options and threatening to hit Iran in Spring, Summer and then definitely in the coming Fall and Winter).
Now after all these bullshit posturing the 5+1 has essentially said "fine, you can enrich up to 5% and keep your R&D programs and keep half of the 20% enriched uranium for Tehran reactor but you have to downgrade the other half of your 20% stockpile and do not proceed with any R&D or activity that may get you close to a bomb (which Iran has been saying from beginning has no interest in).
Essentially by upping the enrichment to 20% (which BTW occurred under Ahmadinejad's term and who took all the criticism and pressure that came with it) Iran offered the other side the option of death so that today they'd be happy with living with just a fever. And one has to give credit to the Iranian armed forces for their steadfastness and readiness during this time which essentially took away the military option from the other side despite their claim that it was on the table and at the time when two of Iran's neighbors on the West and East of it were attacked and demolished by those forces.
I suspect in 6 months if the other side doesn't honor its commitment Iran will probably start Arak's reactor and start producing plutonium so that 5+1 would be happy with Iran just enriching uranium up to 20% and not producing any further plutonium!
Berri Arrives in Iran, Hopes Nuclear Deal Will Lead to 'Settlement in Syria'
by Naharnet Newsdesk 1 hour ago
Speaker Nabih Berri on Sunday hoped a landmark nuclear deal between Iran and world powers will pave the ground for a “settlement” in war-torn Syria, after he arrived in Tehran for an official visit.
Speaking to reporters at an airport in the Iranian capital, Berri thanked his Iranian counterpart Ali Larijani for inviting him to visit the Islamic republic, hoping his talks there will “strengthen relations between the two countries, especially that this visit comes amid a very delicate period.”
“Who said that there are no births in politics? Right now, politics is being born in Iran, specifically in Tehran, after this (nuclear) agreement, or this international deal,” Berri was quoted as saying by Lebanon's National News Agency.
The speaker reminded that he had noted that such an agreement would represent a “political nuclear bomb,” adding that the deal is “in the interest of peace in the Arab region and the Islamic world.”
Berri also hoped the agreement will “pave the ground for a settlement in brotherly Syria and for restoring confidence between Arabs and Iran.
The speaker is accompanied by a parliamentary delegation comprising MPs Abdul Latif al-Zein, Hagop Pakradounian, Ghazi Zoaiter, Ali Fayyad and Qassem Hashem.
According to NNA, Berri is scheduled to hold talks Monday with Iranian President Hassan Rouhani and Speaker Larijani on "bilateral ties between the two countries, the developments in the region and parliamentary cooperation."
Iran and world powers reached a preliminary accord Sunday curbing Tehran's nuclear program in return for sanctions relief, the biggest breakthrough in a decade-old standoff.
Berri's visit to Tehran comes days after a twin suicide attack on the Iranian embassy in Beirut killed 25 people, including Iran's cultural attache, and wounded dozens others. The bombing outside the embassy in Bir Hassan was claimed by the Qaida-affiliated Abdullah Azzam Brigades.
by Naharnet Newsdesk 1 hour ago
Speaker Nabih Berri on Sunday hoped a landmark nuclear deal between Iran and world powers will pave the ground for a “settlement” in war-torn Syria, after he arrived in Tehran for an official visit.
Speaking to reporters at an airport in the Iranian capital, Berri thanked his Iranian counterpart Ali Larijani for inviting him to visit the Islamic republic, hoping his talks there will “strengthen relations between the two countries, especially that this visit comes amid a very delicate period.”
“Who said that there are no births in politics? Right now, politics is being born in Iran, specifically in Tehran, after this (nuclear) agreement, or this international deal,” Berri was quoted as saying by Lebanon's National News Agency.
The speaker reminded that he had noted that such an agreement would represent a “political nuclear bomb,” adding that the deal is “in the interest of peace in the Arab region and the Islamic world.”
Berri also hoped the agreement will “pave the ground for a settlement in brotherly Syria and for restoring confidence between Arabs and Iran.
The speaker is accompanied by a parliamentary delegation comprising MPs Abdul Latif al-Zein, Hagop Pakradounian, Ghazi Zoaiter, Ali Fayyad and Qassem Hashem.
According to NNA, Berri is scheduled to hold talks Monday with Iranian President Hassan Rouhani and Speaker Larijani on "bilateral ties between the two countries, the developments in the region and parliamentary cooperation."
Iran and world powers reached a preliminary accord Sunday curbing Tehran's nuclear program in return for sanctions relief, the biggest breakthrough in a decade-old standoff.
Berri's visit to Tehran comes days after a twin suicide attack on the Iranian embassy in Beirut killed 25 people, including Iran's cultural attache, and wounded dozens others. The bombing outside the embassy in Bir Hassan was claimed by the Qaida-affiliated Abdullah Azzam Brigades.
If it does that, I think we'll all be happy, but judging by the reactions in Iran and internationally today, the hardline crazies just got a tad bit crazier! There will definitely be fighting in Iran over how this extra $7 billion will get disbursed, 'cause their pockets are all emptying quickly. Internationally, Bibi just went into overdrive mode and will do everything possible to derail a more comprehensive agreement. And there has been weary silence from the Gulf, but they had a secret meeting yesterday (Saudi/Kuwait/Qatar) as this deal was getting underway. And let's not even talk about all the resistance this will face in the US and other western countries from the conservatives. The gist of the matter is that unlike us Iranians, no one in the region and many people internationally are not going to put up with a stronger IR. They've had enough.
http://www.radiofarda.com/content/f...n_world_powers_geneva_agreement/25178346.html
I think it is a smart deal for both sides. Very limited steps but confidence building. The Arabs are the big loser of any agreement between Iran and the US.
As for our nation: if this agreement averts war it could actually be vary helpful in increasing demands for human rights as well, as long as the issue is not forgotten in the midst. A climate of war would allow dictators to close ranks and increase internal pressure. So those who are not advocating a foreign invasion could be optimistic about this outcome.
I think it is a smart deal for both sides. Very limited steps but confidence building. The Arabs are the big loser of any agreement between Iran and the US.
As for our nation: if this agreement averts war it could actually be vary helpful in increasing demands for human rights as well, as long as the issue is not forgotten in the midst. A climate of war would allow dictators to close ranks and increase internal pressure. So those who are not advocating a foreign invasion could be optimistic about this outcome.
The threat of war is not removed. Saddam thought by cooperating with UN the threat of war would be removed. In fact the thread of war is larger if US knows Iran has no a-bomb. I think US needs this 6 mounthes to destroy any a-bomb Iran might have produced. Why should Khamenei accept this offer except if Iran has already produced a-bomb.
The underground actions will continue.
The underground actions will continue.
رهبر جام زهر را نوشيد؟ كدام جام كدام زهر؟
I guess some people in order to keep themselves a little happy want to pretend that this was a defeat for Khamenei. They certainly can't say this was a defeat for Rohani and his team and they can't say this was a defeat for Rafsanjani and his team and they can't say this was a bad thing for the regime or Iranians in general so they've got to find some silver lining and pretend that this must've really hurt Khamenei (as though Khamenei is somehow separate and different from the rest of the regime and Rohani whom he personally has endorsed). LOL
به قول معروف
قمار باز اگه نگه به تخمم كه دلش ميتركه
What poison did Khameni drink exactly? He got one of the guys he trusted elected as president. He then set the limits and terms for the Iranian negotiators and got the 5+1 to accept his terms two days after he publicly called Israeli leaders "subhumans" and "rabid dogs" and American threat of war as laughable. And now some people here say he was forced to drink the cup of poison because he has agreed to downgrade half of the 20% enriched uranium stockpile which wasn't even enough for a single nuclear bomb to begin with and has agreed not to pursue weapons grade plutonium in Arak heavy water plant in the next 6 months (a power plant which isn't even close to being complete yet, but Iran is allowed to continue its construction in the next 6 months). And Iran should agree not to expand its current enrichment facilities (which it already was not because of the limitations from sanctions). Yeh, I guess Khamenei really got fucked in this deal.
There was a time when all the focus was on the IR regime as a whole. Now some people have been forced to just talk about the Rahbar as individual and forget about the rest of the regime! Guess who got shafted in these dealings? LOL
I guess some people in order to keep themselves a little happy want to pretend that this was a defeat for Khamenei. They certainly can't say this was a defeat for Rohani and his team and they can't say this was a defeat for Rafsanjani and his team and they can't say this was a bad thing for the regime or Iranians in general so they've got to find some silver lining and pretend that this must've really hurt Khamenei (as though Khamenei is somehow separate and different from the rest of the regime and Rohani whom he personally has endorsed). LOL
به قول معروف
قمار باز اگه نگه به تخمم كه دلش ميتركه
What poison did Khameni drink exactly? He got one of the guys he trusted elected as president. He then set the limits and terms for the Iranian negotiators and got the 5+1 to accept his terms two days after he publicly called Israeli leaders "subhumans" and "rabid dogs" and American threat of war as laughable. And now some people here say he was forced to drink the cup of poison because he has agreed to downgrade half of the 20% enriched uranium stockpile which wasn't even enough for a single nuclear bomb to begin with and has agreed not to pursue weapons grade plutonium in Arak heavy water plant in the next 6 months (a power plant which isn't even close to being complete yet, but Iran is allowed to continue its construction in the next 6 months). And Iran should agree not to expand its current enrichment facilities (which it already was not because of the limitations from sanctions). Yeh, I guess Khamenei really got fucked in this deal.
There was a time when all the focus was on the IR regime as a whole. Now some people have been forced to just talk about the Rahbar as individual and forget about the rest of the regime! Guess who got shafted in these dealings? LOL
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A a-bomb or two is not a strategic military threat to the US, to Israel definitely is. IRI might have produced something but really they signed the deal because the bowed under sancions. They probably got enough of the sanctions off, a fair option in Syria, and security garauntees. I think they will also use the opportunity now to get closer to America using their other cards in Iraq and Afghanstan.