Sepahan Thread

mashdi · Jul 23, 2012

The thing is Sardar Azmoon is not listed in Perspolis current squad. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persepolis_F.C.

Not much news about him except for this interview that a Turkman site had done with him a couple of months ago after he left Sepahan and moved back to Gonbad Kavoos:

http://turkmensport.rozblog.com/post/7

شنبه 16 ارديبهشت 1391

سردار آزمون امروزها کجاست ؟

امروزا در گنبد به مدت یک هفته استراحت میکنم و 4 روز دیگر به تمرینات تیم ملی ملحق میشوم

قرار داد شما با سپاهان به کجا رسید آیا دوباره تمدید شد یا هنوز به اتمام قرار دادت باقی مانده؟

قرار دادم هنوز تمام نشده البته قرار دادش 5/1 ساله بود که البته این فصل تمام میشود .دلایل مختلفی از بیرون آمدن من از باشگاه سپاهان وجود دارد

چه دلایلی؟

بین من و مدیریت باشگاه سپاهان اختلاف ایجاد شد و صلاح را بر این دیدم که به گنبد بیایم بهتر است

مقصد بعدی شما یا بهتر بگوییم تیم مورد نظرتان را انتخاب کردید؟

چرا از یکی دوتیم خارجی پیشنهاداتی دارم از چند تیم داخل ایران نیز پیشنهاداتی دارم و اولویت اولم باشگاههای داخل ایران میباشد

آیا با رفتن قلعه نوعی موقعیت شما در تیم متزلزل نشده چون در موقع حضور قلعه نوعی شما حداقل بر روی نیمکت یا جزء 18 نفر بودید ؟

نه مشکلی از این بابت نیست ،موقعی که لوکابوناچیچ هم بود چون بییشتر دراردوی تیم ملی بودم زیاد نتوانستم آنطور که باید و شاید در کنار تیم باشم ولی در زمان حضور کرانچار جزء 18 نفرتیم بودم

آقای آزمون در حال حاضر پشتوانه سازی و تهیه زیر ساخت های ورزش فوتبال برای آینده نگری این رشته جذاب تقریبا کرکره اش پایین کشیده شده شما علت این نقص را در کجا جستجو می کنید ؟

اینجا به ندرت پیش میاید از نوجوان یا جوانی که شایسته حضور در تیم ملی میباشد حمایت کنند .یعنی بازیکنی که لیاقت و شایستگی آنرا دارد که خود را به مدارج بالا برساند به علت نبودن حمایت نابود میشود و کسی هم دنبالش را نمیگیردکه این بازیکن کجاست و درچه وضعی از زندگی قرار دارد .امیدوارم چند نفر مثل جواد عزیزی در استان باشند که این استعداد ها را پیدا کرده ساپورت داده و چندین نماینده در تیم ملی داشته باشیم البته این کار میسر نمشود مگر اینکه مسئولین محترم شهری و استانی از امثال آقای عزیزی حمایت و پشتیبانی بکنند

جایگاه شما در تیم ملی چگونه است ؟

جایگاه من خداروشکر مثل وضعیت قبلی میباشد و در جوانان جزءبازیکنان ثابت تیم ملی میباشم.امیدوارم با کمک خدا و تمرینات مستمری که انجام میدهم و دعای خیر مردم بتوانم خود را به تیم بزرگسالان تیم ملی جمهوری اسلامی ایران برسانم و نماینده شایسته ای برای استان عزیزمان باشم

مربیان شما در جوانان وتیم ملی ؟

در جوانان اکبر محمدیان و در امیدها علیرضا منصوریان میباشد

آقای منصوریان طی اظهار نظری گفته که چون رسول کر در باشگاه خود نیمکت نشین میباشد نمی تواند او را به تیم ملی دعوت کنند نظرشما چیست ؟

در جریان این موضوع نیستم و این موضوع را دارم از زبان شما میشنوم ولی خیلی تاثیر دارد بازیکنی که در باشگاه خود فیکس باشد راه ائ در رسیدن به تیم ملی هموار میشود

پشت شما وارد میباشد در کدام سیستم میتوانی راحت بازی کنی؟

هر سیستمی که مربی بخواهد میتوانم بازی کنم

بطور مثال با 2-4-4 راحتی راحتی یا 1-3-2-4؟

در جفت این دو سیستم راحتم چون هم میتوانم هد خوب بزنم و هم به گفته مربیانم پابه توپم خوب است در 1-3-2-4 پشت مهاجم بازی میکنم

فوتبال استان گلستان را چطور ارزیابی میکنید؟

اگر به همین سوال باشد نمیتوان زیاد امیدوار بود.ولی اگر اسپانسر های قوی بیابند و همین کسانی که میخواهند برای فوتبال هزینه بکنند حمایت بشوند در کنار همت و تلاش بازیکنان میتوان به آینده امیدوار بود و روزهای درخشان را برای فوتبال دوستان پیش بینی کرد

دیدار تدارکاتی تیم ملی جوانان با کدام کشور مییاشد؟

بازیایی که داریم استرالیا –ترکیه در اردیبهشت تقریبا 14

بازیهای رسمی؟

تقریبا 7 ماه دیگر بازیها در دبی شروع میشود .6 ماه مسابقه تدارکاتی با قطر-کویت –اردن –زاپن-استرالیا داریم .مسابقات 4 جانبه ویتنام با کره –زاپن –ویتنام –تایلن داریم.درکیش 6 روز اماده سازی است –باتیم ملی عربستان بازی داریم بعد میرویم کویت و از انجا عازم دبی برای مسابقات عازم میشویم

آقای آزمون پای تخصصی شما کدوم پایتان است؟

با هردو پا بازی میکنم

چرا به فوتبال رو آوردید؟

به خاطر عشق و علاقه وافرم به این رشته

درپایان حرف دیگری ندارید؟

دریک کلام جواد عزیزی مردی باشهامت و باغیرت که اگر حمایتهای ایشان نبود قطعا من به این مرتبه از فوتبالم نمیرسیدم .واقعا تشکر و قدردانی میکنم و امیدوارم مسئولین از آقای جواد عزیزی و امثال عزیزی حمایتهای لازم را بکنند

Arash_Naeni · Jul 23, 2012

Sorry, i just need to ask something on the subject of Azmoun, so Sepahan actually released this kid?
What club is he playing in now? Someone said he joined Persepolis, ( i WISH ) ???

Sly · Jul 23, 2012

If Sepahan let Sardar Azmoon (who's supposed to be a big talent) go, then probably they have too many talents of this kind (wishful thinking), like for example Jahan Alemian. or else why would they let him go?

On the other hand, even Kazemian at this age was said to be a big talent. Look what happened to him....

Arash_Naeni · Jul 24, 2012

Sly said:

I think Sepahan's youth academy stands higher then all in Iran, because it is run the way a professional club should be run, it has the facilities, the coaches & if you look closely, Sepahan offers their youth players the chance to play in the senior team and once in a while they introduce a gem. If not, Sepahan is very good at snatching up young players from other clubs and improving them to the level where they are the finest in the league (Ebrahimi is one of the biggest examples of this)

But your right, Kazemian, Madanchi, Mobali, Alireza Vahedi, Borhani.....the list is so long of players that we possessed that HAD the talent to go so far. Instead, they somewhat took a stand still in their improvement and crashed to the ground, from Madanchi to UAE 2nd divison, to Mobali released and did not play for 6 months before returning, to Alireza Vahedi who played in Azadegan last season to Gohar Zagros this year!! I could keep going and going, what i am trying to say is that these players are hurting from the lack of basic facilities & coaching 90% of Iranian clubs suffer from.

I think in the darkness that is Iranian football, Sepahan is a limelight in which our players can claim is the only club run anything like a football club should be run & be sure if we had 18 clubs in Iran being run the way Sepahan is, out football would look extremely different.

Zob Ahan · Jul 24, 2012

پرواز بلند محمد باقر در اولین دیدار رسمی طوفان زرد/صادقی: از هواداران سپاسگزارم

دروازه***بان تيم فوتبال فولاد مبارکه سپاهان گفت: به اين برد در بازي اول نياز داشتيم، چرا كه در بازي***هاي تداركاتي نتايج خوبي نگرفته بوديم و از لحاظ روحي كسب اين 3 امتياز واجب بود.

محمد باقر صادقي در گفتگویی با اعلام این مطلب اظهاركرد: در بازي***هاي تداركاتي نتايج زياد خوبي نگرفته بوديم و واقعا از نظر روحي به اين برد در برابر مس كرمان نياز داشتيم به خصوص كه برد در بازي اول بسيار مهم است و خوشحالم كه گام اول را محكم برداشتيم. تلاش ما در ادامه بيش***تر خواهد شد.

وي با بيان اينكه تيم ما بازي را خوب شروع نكرد گفت: در ابتدا خوب نبوديم، اما رفته رفته توانستيم سوار بازي شويم و فرصت***هاي زيادي براي گل***زني ايجاد كرديم. اصلا انتظار نداشتيم كه تيم مس كرمان اين***قدر خوب بازي كند و به اين صورت تيم ما را با مشكل مواجه كند.

دروازه***بان تيم فوتبال فولاد مبارکه سپاهان با بيان اينكه به آينده اين تيم اميدوار است تصريح***كرد: سپاهان روز به روز بهتر مي***شود، طبيعي است كه در هفته***هاي اول تيم كمي ناهماهنگ باشد، اما به مرور اين هماهنگي حاصل مي***شود. بعد از هفته چهارم ليگ برتر بازي***هاي جام باشگاه***هاي آسيا را پيش***رو داريم و با تلاش مضاعف قصد داريم كه فيناليست شويم.

صادقي افزود: خط دفاع ما در بازي با مس از ديگر خطوط بهتر عمل كرد و نمايش بسيار خوبي را داشت. بايد بگويم كه اميد ابراهيمي بهترين بازيكن ما در اين بازي بود و به اعتقاد من در پست هافبك دفاعي ابراهيمي در ايران حرف اول را مي***زند.

وي گفت: اعتقاد دارم كه سپاهان سريع تر از ديگر تيم***ها به هماهنگي مي***رسد و اميدوارم پيروزي***هاي ما تداوم يابد.

دروازه***بان تيم فوتبال فولاد مبارکه سپاهان از تشویق های ویژه هواداران نسبت به خود سپاسگزاری کرد و گفت : دوست دارم با بهترین نمایش ها پاسخ محبت و حمایت این هواداران متعصب را به خوبی بدهم.

فولاد مبارکه سپاهان در هفته دوم ليگ برتر چهارشنبه شب همين هفته در اهواز به مصاف فولاد خوزستان مي***رود.

ارسال شده در مورخه : شنبه، 31 تير ماه ، 1391

Sly · Jul 24, 2012

Arash_Naeni said:

I think Sepahan's youth academy stands higher then all in Iran, because it is run the way a professional club should be run, it has the facilities, the coaches & if you look closely, Sepahan offers their youth players the chance to play in the senior team and once in a while they introduce a gem. If not, Sepahan is very good at snatching up young players from other clubs and improving them to the level where they are the finest in the league (Ebrahimi is one of the biggest examples of this)

But your right, Kazemian, Madanchi, Mobali, Alireza Vahedi, Borhani.....the list is so long of players that we possessed that HAD the talent to go so far. Instead, they somewhat took a stand still in their improvement and crashed to the ground, from Madanchi to UAE 2nd divison, to Mobali released and did not play for 6 months before returning, to Alireza Vahedi who played in Azadegan last season to Gohar Zagros this year!! I could keep going and going, what i am trying to say is that these players are hurting from the lack of basic facilities & coaching 90% of Iranian clubs suffer from.

I think in the darkness that is Iranian football, Sepahan is a limelight in which our players can claim is the only club run anything like a football club should be run & be sure if we had 18 clubs in Iran being run the way Sepahan is, out football would look extremely different.

Sure, I agree. But I still wonder why they would let Azmoon go. As said, to have too many young talents to let him go is a wishful thinking. but anyways... you never know...

Arash_Naeni · Jul 24, 2012

Sly said:

You never know, people are saying it could be the dalals that took him out of Sepahan. The bigger question is this, why did Foolad let Kaveh Rezaei go? Specially when Reza Norouzi suffered a serious injury with a long term lay off & Rezaei is still one of Iran's finest young talents and was starting to break into the first team under Jalali...

The transfer activity in Iran leaves much to the imagination and rarely has much sense to it.

biAzar · Jul 24, 2012

Arash_Naeni said:

the culture of football management in Iran has regressed rapidly, particularly after politicians and atrafians realized there is money to be made!
More than facilities and coaching is the willingness and know how of running a pro club which includes development.
When league bartar started, there were handful of clubs that actually had good youth development. I'm not considering military teams that cherry picked young talents because of sarbazi situation.
Only one of the two big tehrani clubs did that seriously in a short juncture and the result was players like ando,jabari,ashoobi,sadeghi, taleblou,.....
But things changed. One of the best player development factories (Pas) was destroyed by politicians, Esteghlal ahvaz was not supported and fell in to dark times, they issued death fatwa to zob ahan's program,taj copied their counter parts model after they realized they can buy talent with non earned money (why bother developing) which in a way is mirror image of our economy...Buy instead of producing.....
Flow of irational money to football, the need of dallals to write bigger than life contracts so they make more money, transient management of sardars and non sport personalities ( they come in for a temporary fix and live and spend as there is no tomorrow) are all contributing reasons.
A major problem is money and the fakefame taht is offered to these players that lag in the area of maturity.
2 decades ago , our decent talents will cherish playing in budes liga 2 and alike leagues, both for money and development/prestige reasons.This story is a good indication of how money/promises/ and illusion of fame plays a role in development of prospects...
Few years back Rah ahan was camping in UAE during winter time. There was a german team there that was camping there as well and they played a friendly.In that friendly a young prospect that had shined in the league ( and projected as the next mahdavi kia) caught eyes of German coaches. The german team came to Tehran for a friendly , got stranded in a storm and stayed longer than a day that they had planned in Tehran. German team's officials contacted that player and tod him they are interested in signing him but they would loan him to a bundes liga 2 team so he can develope gradually in to their system.
Player eventually refused and ended up signing with Pespes. After few years , as he was one of ekhrajis, I believe he could only manage to sign with gahar zagros.
Incidentally I ran into the player at one of the Rah ahan practices after he had turned down german offer. I asked him why and his response was "beram dehat alman chikar konam"? mind you this kid was from shar ray, and except for travels with rah ahan, had never been out of that zone, but was talking about dehat alman in a way that you would think he was born and raised in "naf" paris

The true reason was the money offered by pespes, prospect of being in TV and covered in tabloid magazines every week.There was no willingness to develop. Before he had even played a game for pespes, he had reached his life goals..

hasan roshan made a good statement about flow of money by Tehrani clubs into these type of players.. When you pay an "amaleh" ( no disrespect intended to the hard workers) like an Banna/ Architect , He will perform for you niether as an amaleh nor an architect...

This is a major reason why we have had a draught in talent development. And yes my friend ,beside dallas and incompotent transient fame seeking managers, and tabloid sports media biased fans that cheer and get erection for "winning" the transfer season and compile ideal/theoretical lineups to crush every other team

are responsible for this culture.....

Look at this hoopla that Sardar created .He lobbied and succesfully bullied for a rule change on forign goailes. Check out the quality of IPL goalies that played in first week for peykan, zobahan and other teams. Reserve goalies of Taj and pespes. They are all taking spots from our youth at a cost of at least 400 million tomans each..... Only because some one wanted to make commission!

Fans/media/"experts" can not cry foul for lack of talent and yet cheer everything that lines up with club "loyalty".

biAzar · Jul 24, 2012

Another couple of factors that I believe have contributed are :

1) eradication of incentive programs for incorporation of youth in the league.. IPL under Farahani started with a rule that teams can have up to 4 substitute , provided that the 4th substitute is one of the U23 listed players. This was designed to give more playing time to young players. The rule was signed by all the IPL team representatives before season started (3rd or 4th IPL season)... Everything was fine, until zobahan upset pespes in game .They had brought in a U23 sub in dying minutes . Ghmkhar raised a hell. Pespes Media and fand declared it illegal and issue was sent to FIFA . Eventhough Ghamkhar didn't get his wish of reversing the game outcome, the rule was abandoned in a compromise.....

2) When takht jamshid cup started, leading to golden years of Iranian football, there was a mnadate for eligibilty of teams based on having farm teams. Many talents were introduced by clubs, Even pespes benefited. I recall this young player that would come in after minute 80, and almost score a goal instantly. He is now known as Doctor Zadmehr, and people only associate him as "former sarparast" that talks nicely. But he was actually a pespes farm procut.

League takht jamshid also limited transfer of palyers between league teams to 3 to encourage introduction of young talents.If it wasn't because of taht rule, we probably would not have seen players like maraghechian, panjali, derakhshan,...blossom as quickly as they did. They would have been burried in depth chart of their teams.

When IPL started,they realized the formula of 30 years ago was still a good one. They started with 4 transfer limit But under pressure of big clubs they increased that number to 7 ( for newly promoted 8) players plus 4 international players! Theoretically , now days clubs that CAN AFFORD can replace entire line up every season!

Zob Ahan · Jul 24, 2012

Sly said:

One of the managers of Sepahan told me that Mohammadi (Javanan coach) "inghadr zire paash neshast" ta raft. They must have offered him quite a bit or threatened him with not playing in TM because Sepahan even gave him a nice apartment in Khayam St and he was quite happy there. They did the same to a rah ahan youth player.

Arash_Naeni · Jul 24, 2012

biAzar said:

Well said Biazar jan, agreed! These are some of the points that i believe are the downfall to our football.
I see no sense in the number of transfers allowed, its ridicule that each and every year we see such recycling and the cycle is continuos, the idiotic sense that our clubs have in their mind is "if your not successful just replace the whole team"

I mean, every year, Persepolis, Esteghlal all make a minimum of 5-6 wholesale changes to their team, if not more! where is the sense in that? I wish we could change the rule to a even stricter rule, a maximum of 3 signings by every IPL team a season.

& your right, there are many things in Iran that have been killed, we killed off one of Iran's finest clubs, a club that was the example of how clubs in Iran should be run, Pas Tehran. Pas Tehran, like Sepahan was an example of the closest thing we came to a professional atmosphere. As a Persepolis supporter, i look at my team, and i think to myself, when was the LAST time we even introduced someone from our youth academy that managed to even get a fair chance in the team and make a name for himself. We rarely give our youth players a chance, let alone produce any decent talents. Instead, like you said, our so called chairmans are busy wasting millions and millions on players that will just be sold out again next season..

Whats ironic is that we dont even BUY the better talents in Iran, instead we waste money on washed up over aged players and expect short team success (which we dont even get).

Your examples of our players joining Europe are exactly of what i read over and over in the Iranian media during this recent transfer market, i am sure Iran would at least export 3 to 4 players every season to Europe if the mindset of our players were different, the generation we currently have is pathetic, they have no goals, they have no motivation.

I think it was Mes Kerman, leading up to this season, they had a friendly with a russian club and the russian club was very interested in 2 of their players by the sounds of the report, contact was even made to sign these 2 players. But they were turned down. Im sure our players were too good to live or to start off in Russia, mind you this was a very small club, pretty sure they were in the top division though but probably one of the lower tier clubs. All in all, goes to show you that i think our players are sitting there waiting for Inter, Bayern or Barcelona to come calling, otherwise they dont even want to work for their own progress..

Khalatbari & FC Koln, this was a genuine transfer right before he made his move to Qatar, i even recall Koln offering Zobahan $400.000 for a transfer fee, the Iranian greed kicked in, the offer was turned down because Zobahan wanted more, and FC Koln didnt want to pay more seeing he was in his last year of contract. The deal died, & season after Khalatbari left on a free to join Qatar.

I remember the days when Fajr Sepasi sent 3 of their players to Admira Wacker, and Amin Motevaselzadeh was one that shined even if it was in the league's second division, he scored 12 goals or something in 17 appearances and even attracted interest from some of the clubs in the top tier. We were all waiting for him to continue his progress in Europe, instead he returned home as soon as the big money offer came in from Pegah Gilan. Quickly jumping at the money instead of focusing on his own progress as a player he returned to Iran.

THE ONLY case that i have seen that have stood out for me, of a Iranian player wanting to improve, showing somewhat of a motivation to improve as a player has been Haghighi, making the move to Russia when i am sure he could of easily stayed in Iran and got a fat paycheck being lazy and working 10 times less then what he has to in Russia.

If only that sort of mentality lived within all our players, that moving to Europe and working hard and moving yourself up gradually even from a lower tier league, or as a bench player. I am sure Iran would be up there with the number of European based players that Japan and South Korea currently boost to have.

Difference with us and Japan and why they have leapfrogged light years ahead of us, many of their players would JUMP at the chance to play in Dutch, German or even Romanian second division leagues...While our players, well, its all about the pay cheque for our players. The love for the game is out of the window, has been for quite some time now.

Nekounam is another one, i dont care what people say! This guy's head is all about money, as soon as talks occurred of salary reduction he suddenly became "home sick". So what he served in Europe for 6 years, this guy was 31, was playing some brilliant football last season, witnessed his best season with Osasuna in terms of pushing for Europe and finishing high on the ladder, he could have easily continued in Spain and Osasuna but instead AS SOON as reduction came into place, he jumped at the chance to return home to Esteghlal, where he could pick up a fat pay cheque doing 20% of the work he did in Osasuna, home sick my ass.

Same ugly excuse Kaebi used when he was in Leicester, he wasn't even there for a year and he was complaining, just cause he was playing in England's second division and was being benched, he gave up and wanted to return home straight away. What a bunch of bache nanehs we have in our football. Give up at the sight of the first hurdle that life throws at you. Im sure if Kagawa gave up at the first hurdle he wouldn't be playing in Man Utd right now, this guy was playing in Japan's 2nd division 3 seasons ago, if he too was all about money at first, he would never be in Man Utd right now, money comes with hard work. Our players need to understand, you can earn 10x what you earn in Persepolis, if your willing to do a bit of hard work. Honda, same thing, started in the 2nd division of Netherlands. Kawashima played his first 2 seasons with a relegation struggling side, worked hard and got on the radar of the likes of AC Milan. WHEN A 16 year old PLAYER from Japan's high school can get up and leave and go to Europe to improve and not become "home sick" then KHAKE ALAM TO SARE MA, that we actually hope for anything positive to come out of this Iranian GOH that we call football.

I could go on and on about how i KNOW our players are lazy. Baba the mentality isn't there. The only light at the end of the tunnel that we have is if Queiroz invites EVERY single half strutting European based player that is able to play for Iran and start them. So our players in Iran understands, that you know what, even a half philipino Iranian based in Swedens 2nd division is more sought after in the eyes of a manager like Queiroz then you. No wonder he is killing himself to attract every player who has an ounce of Iranian heritage to Team Melli..

I wish some of our current players learn a little bit, just a tiny bit from the likes of Hashemian, Mahdavikia, Rezaei & even Shojaei.
EVEN Shojaei who so many people bag, took the chance, took a plunge into going to Europe and he worked hard, first season he wasn't a regular but slowly implemented himself into Osasuna.

I feel sick to my stomach when i see players like Ansarifard turning down genuine offers from decent European clubs to play in Persepolis, in all honesty i loose respect even for these players when they play for the club i cherish so much. Ansarifard is so koon goshad he didnt want to work to become a better player, why should he when he gets paid twice as much, and is in the spot light in Tehran, who cares about progress right. And this guy actually dares putting himself in the same sentence as Ali Daei, sorry but vaghean our players are full of k-0ss o sher.

Sly · Jul 25, 2012

biAzar said:

the culture of football management in Iran has regressed rapidly, particularly after politicians and atrafians realized there is money to be made!
More than facilities and coaching is the willingness and know how of running a pro club which includes development.
When league bartar started, there were handful of clubs that actually had good youth development. I'm not considering military teams that cherry picked young talents because of sarbazi situation.
Only one of the two big tehrani clubs did that seriously in a short juncture and the result was players like ando,jabari,ashoobi,sadeghi, taleblou,.....
But things changed. One of the best player development factories (Pas) was destroyed by politicians, Esteghlal ahvaz was not supported and fell in to dark times, they issued death fatwa to zob ahan's program,taj copied their counter parts model after they realized they can buy talent with non earned money (why bother developing) which in a way is mirror image of our economy...Buy instead of producing.....
Flow of irational money to football, the need of dallals to write bigger than life contracts so they make more money, transient management of sardars and non sport personalities ( they come in for a temporary fix and live and spend as there is no tomorrow) are all contributing reasons.
A major problem is money and the fakefame taht is offered to these players that lag in the area of maturity.
2 decades ago , our decent talents will cherish playing in budes liga 2 and alike leagues, both for money and development/prestige reasons.This story is a good indication of how money/promises/ and illusion of fame plays a role in development of prospects...
Few years back Rah ahan was camping in UAE during winter time. There was a german team there that was camping there as well and they played a friendly.In that friendly a young prospect that had shined in the league ( and projected as the next mahdavi kia) caught eyes of German coaches. The german team came to Tehran for a friendly , got stranded in a storm and stayed longer than a day that they had planned in Tehran. German team's officials contacted that player and tod him they are interested in signing him but they would loan him to a bundes liga 2 team so he can develope gradually in to their system.
Player eventually refused and ended up signing with Pespes. After few years , as he was one of ekhrajis, I believe he could only manage to sign with gahar zagros.
Incidentally I ran into the player at one of the Rah ahan practices after he had turned down german offer. I asked him why and his response was "beram dehat alman chikar konam"? mind you this kid was from shar ray, and except for travels with rah ahan, had never been out of that zone, but was talking about dehat alman in a way that you would think he was born and raised in "naf" paris

The true reason was the money offered by pespes, prospect of being in TV and covered in tabloid magazines every week.There was no willingness to develop. Before he had even played a game for pespes, he had reached his life goals..

hasan roshan made a good statement about flow of money by Tehrani clubs into these type of players.. When you pay an "amaleh" ( no disrespect intended to the hard workers) like an Banna/ Architect , He will perform for you niether as an amaleh nor an architect...

This is a major reason why we have had a draught in talent development. And yes my friend ,beside dallas and incompotent transient fame seeking managers, and tabloid sports media biased fans that cheer and get erection for "winning" the transfer season and compile ideal/theoretical lineups to crush every other team

are responsible for this culture.....

Look at this hoopla that Sardar created .He lobbied and succesfully bullied for a rule change on forign goailes. Check out the quality of IPL goalies that played in first week for peykan, zobahan and other teams. Reserve goalies of Taj and pespes. They are all taking spots from our youth at a cost of at least 400 million tomans each..... Only because some one wanted to make commission!

Fans/media/"experts" can not cry foul for lack of talent and yet cheer everything that lines up with club "loyalty".

biAzar jan, thanks for the stories. That is unfortunately the state of our football. May I ask who the player you're talking about was?

BTW, I have to add that Ando and Jabbari were actually the products of Aboumoslem, along with Enayati, weren't they? Ando went actually to Europe directly from Aboumoslem before he came back to Iran and joined eses.

Sly · Jul 25, 2012

Zob Ahan said:

What can you say? 2 ghotbi football has its destructions. Dallals like that can make their "you wont be invited to TM" argument to go through. They would never be able to do that easily when "right" players were invited from all teams. and with these kind of people in our football we will never progress.

biAzar · Jul 25, 2012

Sly

Ando and jabari were products of Taj omid team that were transfered to abo in enayati deal and sarbazi situation. Back then abo was considered a military supported team ,kind of like fajr and malavan of now days.

That player was Ali Reza Mohammad.

Sly · Jul 25, 2012

I see, thanks biAzar jan. I didn't know that.

When it comes to Ali Reza Mohammad..... aghl ke nabashe, joon dar azabe. What can you say?

Zob Ahan · Jul 26, 2012

todays goals
[video=youtube_share;QSNnk8n7Wtk]http://youtu.be/QSNnk8n7Wtk[/video]

Babr · Jul 26, 2012

ostad plz post all videos under IPLweek 2 thread so we can see them all .

Zob Ahan · Jul 26, 2012

^^Chashm

Arash_Naeni · Jul 26, 2012

Khalatbari & Ebrahimi, my god these 2 are good.
By the looks of it, im certain Sepahan's 3rd was assisted by Ebrahimi, and what a ball...

Sly · Jul 26, 2012

and as I had expected, Khalatbari was behind most of their goals. What a player he is! Damesh garm!

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