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oghabealborz

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Apologists and Bikhial types who prioritize jerking off to Toop Bazi over the lives of Iranian women and children don't even understand that before this regime we were on course to be a world power in football by the 1980s or 90s at the latest.

We had a professional league 10 years before Korea and 20 years before Japan. We hosted the Asian Games 12 years before Korea and were on course to host the Olympics in 84 and WC in 1990.

The difference between what Iran turned into and what it was going to be is the difference between North Korea and South Korea. That's the closest example in the modern world.

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People with third world mentality want to have Swiss like prosperity.

What you pointed out is true ,but 44 years later nothing has changed with our mentality...
Still people with third world mentality after Swiss like prosperity.

Shit on their own manipulated by foes...
Nough said.
 

IEI

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People with third world mentality want to have Swiss like prosperity.

What you pointed out is true ,but 44 years later nothing has changed with our mentality...
Still people with third world mentality after Swiss like prosperity.

Shit on their own manipulated by foes...
Nough said.
From what I understood, your mentality that you have to support TM no matter what but I disagree with that 100%

First of all, countries like Switzerland that you keep referring to, have and are and will fight for their freedom continuously. It is not like that they
are indifferent people but it is the fact since society has rule of law, they come to picture when it matters. We don't have that so unfortunately we have to lose our sisters, and brothers everyday.

The second thing that really bothers me with your generic answers, is that the respect between two entities (father and son, brother and sister, country and individuals, government and people, TM and fans) are two ways. That means both entity have to have respect for each other. Wearing a national jersey is for people and fighting for those people. That respect doesn't exist today. The respect is not one way my friend.

Also support for an entity is not continuous, that means I can select a person to represent me but if that entity doesn't do a good job, that doesn't mean I have to select him just because he is party of a party or an entity. You have to earn respect.

If you are indicating that all this movement is due to a foreign foe that you keep saying, please elaborate another solution. I bet you have none.

To be honest, I have not seen a single post of sympathy for people of Iran. The only thing I hear is TM this and that. Do you understand that after all, this is just a game but fighting for freedom is the future of our nation ?

In fact, I thank the people of Iran today because they showed one thing. You can't use sport as a tool to manipulate people anymore. That shows they are ahead of me and you, and those who 44 years ago destroyed the nation and don't accept any responsibility whatsoever.
 
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Meehandoost

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People with third world mentality want to have Swiss like prosperity.

What you pointed out is true ,but 44 years later nothing has changed with our mentality...
Still people with third world mentality after Swiss like prosperity.

Shit on their own manipulated by foes...
Nough said.
Contrary to your assertion and innuendo, people of Iran, barring a very small minority that either openly or covertly promote the Islamic regime, have grown tremendously, culturally, socially, politically and basically in every aspect except economically which is due to a corrupt mafia-like clerical cast. Even more so over the recent months. Once this regime is no more, there can be no doubt that the progress of Iran and its people will be quite swift. People of Iran deserve every bit of freedom, justice, rule of law, security and respect as anyone else, Swiss or otherwise, especially from their own government and their own compatriots. If this team was truly the team of the nation of Iran and had not allowed itself to become a symbol of a corrupt and oppressive regime celebrated by the very forces that were beating the people in the streets, perhaps it would have achieved new heights like the nation. To somehow attribute their poor judgment, their shortcomings and their failure to the people is totally wrong and reminiscent of the Islamic regime and its elements.
 

IEI

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Contrary to your assertion and innuendo, people of Iran, barring a very small minority that either openly or covertly promote the Islamic regime, have grown tremendously, culturally, socially, politically and basically in every aspect except economically which is due to a corrupt mafia-like clerical cast. Even more so over the recent months. Once this regime is no more, there can be no doubt that the progress of Iran and its people will be quite swift. People of Iran deserve every bit of freedom, justice, rule of law, security and respect as anyone else, Swiss or otherwise, especially from their own government and their own compatriots. If this team was truly the team of the nation of Iran and had not allowed itself to become a symbol of a corrupt and oppressive regime celebrated by the very forces that were beating the people in the streets, perhaps it would have achieved new heights like the nation. To somehow attribute their poor judgment, their shortcomings and their failure to the people is totally wrong and reminiscent of the Islamic regime and its elements.
Agha I really like your style of writing. It is amazing. I wish I could write so elaborately.
 

IEI

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Believe our friend writes 'eloquently' . Pure joy reading him.
Unfortunately due to fast typing in the chat enviornments and ISP, my English has declined drastically. I think nobody can write as fast I can though :D
 
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Contrary to your assertion and innuendo, people of Iran, barring a very small minority that either openly or covertly promote the Islamic regime, have grown tremendously, culturally, socially, politically and basically in every aspect except economically which is due to a corrupt mafia-like clerical cast. Even more so over the recent months. Once this regime is no more, there can be no doubt that the progress of Iran and its people will be quite swift. People of Iran deserve every bit of freedom, justice, rule of law, security and respect as anyone else, Swiss or otherwise, especially from their own government and their own compatriots. If this team was truly the team of the nation of Iran and had not allowed itself to become a symbol of a corrupt and oppressive regime celebrated by the very forces that were beating the people in the streets, perhaps it would have achieved new heights like the nation. To somehow attribute their poor judgment, their shortcomings and their failure to the people is totally wrong and reminiscent of the Islamic regime and its elements.
You must once again see the list that goes around as if IRI is toppled what will ensue, including

US must give back the loot (believe the tune of $120 billions plus four decades of interest) it is withholding over the years,
Qatar sucking less gas from PGulf, (note says the draw 13 to 1 at the moment)
Turkey find competition in tourism,
Saudi find their match at OPEC,
Russia get cut off stealing at Caspian sea,
Israel/arab unity in the gulf becoming less meaningful,
India and China not able to buy oil at deep discount
Possible return of Iranians will drain west of their specialists in various fields

If accounts are correct this is super huge. It's like a lottery ticket for all if cashed out. Then again you see all these countries will not benefit from a change.

Our people must wake up and work double hard at it.
 
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People with third world mentality want to have Swiss like prosperity.

What you pointed out is true ,but 44 years later nothing has changed with our mentality...
Still people with third world mentality after Swiss like prosperity.

Shit on their own manipulated by foes...
Nough said.
I don't know what people with "third world mentality" do, but if they're anything like people with a lowlife mentality, they prefer jerking off to Toop Bazi while their brothers and sisters back home are getting tortured, raped and killed. And if they're really shameless, they then try to shame those who care about their people by pretending "they're shitting on their own manipulated by foes"!

As if they're trying to show off that they have neither a brain nor a conscience.
 

Meehandoost

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You must once again see the list that goes around as if IRI is toppled what will ensue, including

US must give back the loot (believe the tune of $120 billions plus four decades of interest) it is withholding over the years,
Qatar sucking less gas from PGulf, (note says the draw 13 to 1 at the moment)
Turkey find competition in tourism,
Saudi find their match at OPEC,
Russia get cut off stealing at Caspian sea,
Israel/arab unity in the gulf becoming less meaningful,
India and China not able to buy oil at deep discount
Possible return of Iranians will drain west of their specialists in various fields

If accounts are correct this is super huge. It's like a lottery ticket for all if cashed out. Then again you see all these countries will not benefit from a change.

Our people must wake up and work double hard at it.
Thank you to you both for your kind words. As the saying goes, we don’t know what we don’t know. The true potential is even larger! However it cannot be and will not be all about economics. In addition to what you listed, and other numerous damages inflicted upon the land, including oil and gas, fresh water, fisheries, minerals and soil, the greatest damage is made to the people of this blessed land by the prejudice and dogma breathed into them from the pulpit, leaving unsavoury qualities such as powerlessness, dishonesty and cynicism diminishing a patriotic identity and sense of self worth and purpose.

Fortunately, progress is being made in spite of the Islamic regime and new found human qualities such as truthfulness, transparency, friendship, equality and justice are taking roots. This is the brightest glimpse of a prosperous and promising future for the land and its people. Iran’s greatest wealth are its people when they break the shackles of prejudice and dogma, not its oil and gas. Their human qualities are their greatest strength not reverse-engineered bombs and bullets.

So the future is indeed bright for Iran and its people, but not because of its wealth, not because of all the money owed to it, not because of tourism diverted to it, all of which may well be true. But the real reason will be because the people of Iran will at long last discover their potential and the role they will play in reshaping human civilization when Iran will become a shining beacon of arts and science, a friend to the world, and a cradle of civilization once more. That future is getting closer every day.
 

Behrooz_C

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People with third world mentality want to have Swiss like prosperity.

What you pointed out is true ,but 44 years later nothing has changed with our mentality...
Still people with third world mentality after Swiss like prosperity.

Shit on their own manipulated by foes...
Nough said.
Do you think that Switzerland was the country it is today from the start of time, or do you think at some point they started to change and move with the times?

There is something called aghlaaniat. IR does not function with aghlaaniat, it functions on a discredited ideology and has taken an entire nation hostage to it.

Everything I see and hear from inside Iran tells me that a lot has changed from 44 years ago.
 

oghabealborz

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I don't know what people with "third world mentality" do, but if they're anything like people with a lowlife mentality, they prefer jerking off to Toop Bazi while their brothers and sisters back home are getting tortured, raped and killed. And if they're really shameless, they then try to shame those who care about their people by pretending "they're shitting on their own manipulated by foes"!

As if they're trying to show off that they have neither a brain nor a conscience.
Few people replied to my post but none of them find it necessary to be rude like you.

I suppose because they're not a lowlife and can hold a civil conversation without throwing insults to prove their point.

You only arrived here 5 minutes ago and already driven out a long time valued member by displaying your sexual preferences .
 

rahim

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🔺"سعید پیرامون" بازیکن تیم ملی فوتبال ساحلی که در جریان دیدار با تیم ملی برزیل پس از زدن گل پیروزی به نشانه اعتراض در یک حرکت نمادین موهای خود را قیچی کرد، از لیست تیم ملی خط خورد.

علاوه بر سعید پیرامون، محمد احمدزاده و مصطفی کیانی نیز از لیست تیم ملی خط خوردند.

گفته میشود سه بازیکن ملی‌پوش تیم فوتبال ساحلی ایران به اردوی تدارکاتی در قشم دعوت نشده‌اند.

رسانه‌ها اعلام کرده‌اند که آنها به دلیل «رفتار‌های هنجارشکنانه» در فینال جام بین‌قاره‌ای در دبی، «۶ ماه محروم شده‌اند.»

✍ تیم ملی ایران دقیقا همین بازیکنانی هستن که خط خوردن، از این بازیکنان ملی تر هم مگه وجود داره؟

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Zob Ahan

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Wow, just wow!

I spoke to him a few times when he was in Germany, he was very negative towards IR.
Maybe he did this behind the "curtains" to support the players who have been getting threats from IR?

Or am i naive here?
Everybody talks the talk but people in general look out for their own interest. Looking at the $ that IR invested in bringing their bisavad hacks as "fans" just tells me that Mahdavikia's palms were greased heavily. Estili taklifesh rowshane. The MOFO has been milking that lucky goal against US for three decades. God knows how much money was put into his pocket all these years.
 

footy

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Thank you to you both for your kind words. As the saying goes, we don’t know what we don’t know. The true potential is even larger! However it cannot be and will not be all about economics. In addition to what you listed, and other numerous damages inflicted upon the land, including oil and gas, fresh water, fisheries, minerals and soil, the greatest damage is made to the people of this blessed land by the prejudice and dogma breathed into them from the pulpit, leaving unsavoury qualities such as powerlessness, dishonesty and cynicism diminishing a patriotic identity and sense of self worth and purpose.

Fortunately, progress is being made in spite of the Islamic regime and new found human qualities such as truthfulness, transparency, friendship, equality and justice are taking roots. This is the brightest glimpse of a prosperous and promising future for the land and its people. Iran’s greatest wealth are its people when they break the shackles of prejudice and dogma, not its oil and gas. Their human qualities are their greatest strength not reverse-engineered bombs and bullets.

So the future is indeed bright for Iran and its people, but not because of its wealth, not because of all the money owed to it, not because of tourism diverted to it, all of which may well be true. But the real reason will be because the people of Iran will at long last discover their potential and the role they will play in reshaping human civilization when Iran will become a shining beacon of arts and science, a friend to the world, and a cradle of civilization once more. That future is getting closer every day.
Essay worthy of election speech but same peeps were out in 1388. It is different now and would lead to changes without the desired changes necessarily. Positive but open-minded.