This is realistically the most competitive outcome for Arab nations in the group after they exclusively play against each other:
Iraq 3-2-1 =11
UAE 3-1-2 =10
Syria 1-3-2 =6
Lebanon 0-4-2 =4
Iraq can wishfully make total of 5 points playing against Iran and Korea. (lets say Iran loses to them)
UAE can wishfully make 4 points playing against Iran and Korea (lets say they beat Iran once and lose once)
So 16-17 points will be enough for the second spot.
We already have 6. We need 3 (out of 6) points from UAE, 6 (out of 6) from Lebanon, 1 (out of 3) from Syria, 1 (out of 6) from Korea and it is done.
We all know though we will do a lot better.
Iraq 3-2-1 =11
UAE 3-1-2 =10
Syria 1-3-2 =6
Lebanon 0-4-2 =4
Iraq can wishfully make total of 5 points playing against Iran and Korea. (lets say Iran loses to them)
UAE can wishfully make 4 points playing against Iran and Korea (lets say they beat Iran once and lose once)
So 16-17 points will be enough for the second spot.
We already have 6. We need 3 (out of 6) points from UAE, 6 (out of 6) from Lebanon, 1 (out of 3) from Syria, 1 (out of 6) from Korea and it is done.
We all know though we will do a lot better.
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The goal Iraq scored which was offside, shouldn't have been allowed to begin with. On several other occasions, you could see the defense easily allowing the Iraqis to get close to our 18 box, specially in the second half.
It's not only the defense. I also have to add, until our second goal which was scored only due to Azmoun's and Taremi's fantastic individual efforts, we did not have any real plan to score more goals on the Iraqis or if we did, they were very ineffective. Only after that goal which made the iraqi team shattered, we could score the third.
I also have to go as far as saying, this is the first time in 8 years, I see TM completely tired and out of breath after 80th minutes of playing a game.
The bar was already set high by CQ and we should not be pleased with anything less than that. Unfortunately, I sense a slow but sure decline. Having said that, our big stars in TM cover up the decline well and we will most probably do well in Asia because of them. How ever we should not get blinded by these results and should see the game more than just 3-0. As said the game against South Korea will be a better test for our boys.
It's not only the defense. I also have to add, until our second goal which was scored only due to Azmoun's and Taremi's fantastic individual efforts, we did not have any real plan to score more goals on the Iraqis or if we did, they were very ineffective. Only after that goal which made the iraqi team shattered, we could score the third.
I also have to go as far as saying, this is the first time in 8 years, I see TM completely tired and out of breath after 80th minutes of playing a game.
The bar was already set high by CQ and we should not be pleased with anything less than that. Unfortunately, I sense a slow but sure decline. Having said that, our big stars in TM cover up the decline well and we will most probably do well in Asia because of them. How ever we should not get blinded by these results and should see the game more than just 3-0. As said the game against South Korea will be a better test for our boys.
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CQ legacy is this:
Play closed/defensive minded with Asian teams and use counter attack, and you will go to world cup. They are not creative enough to change their plan. Even against Korea and Japan, this strategy works (but bit less).
As far as winning the AFC, that won't happen because you can make a mistake or two with the aforementioned strategy.
As far as world cup, you will agitate the big teams but eventually lose.
As far as our current coach, he has done so much better than CQ. He has been in Iran and understand the mentality of Iranian players.
Play closed/defensive minded with Asian teams and use counter attack, and you will go to world cup. They are not creative enough to change their plan. Even against Korea and Japan, this strategy works (but bit less).
As far as winning the AFC, that won't happen because you can make a mistake or two with the aforementioned strategy.
As far as world cup, you will agitate the big teams but eventually lose.
As far as our current coach, he has done so much better than CQ. He has been in Iran and understand the mentality of Iranian players.
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This is still CQ team, lets not fool ourselves..
The stars of this team are all given proper chances by CQ. Your statement is not true at all
Sardar got his first cap at 18 when he was no one, warming the bench at Kazan.
Taremi started over Ansarifard when he was still at Persepolis.
He brought JB to 2014 when he was playing in dutch 2nd division and was 19.
Brought people like Saman who was even capped in friendly for Sweden. So it was almost done decision. He convinced the kid to play for Iran.
Brought PAG, Amiri, Torabi, Nour. Kanani,beiro, amir, Majid who are still with this team and important puzzles.
CQ team tied Portugal, beat Morocco, by far the best Asian team in 2018. And lost two tight game vs Spain and Argentina.
Too early to judge Skocic, Against Syria we didn't play good, and vs Iraq the early goal changed every thing. Still the possession was bad.
CQ took over a disaster team, real disaster, we had NO PLAYER in europe, not even Greece. I don't know if you realize the impact, and not sure names like Gholam Rezaei, Ghazi, Gholami, Arash Afhin refresh something for you but players like them were our only resources..
Skocic took over a team with now 20 players in Europe. That about 7-8 of them can't even make the squad because of depth.
CQ changed our players mentality.
Move to europe, even 2nd or 3rd rated league then i may consider you.
This is just about immediate impact, we all know in past and even players, specially Dejagah mentioned CQ was the main guy why he decided to play for Iran.
Plus 2014 team had no business to be in WC. Probably poorest Iran squad in WC. on paper
The stars of this team are all given proper chances by CQ. Your statement is not true at all
Sardar got his first cap at 18 when he was no one, warming the bench at Kazan.
Taremi started over Ansarifard when he was still at Persepolis.
He brought JB to 2014 when he was playing in dutch 2nd division and was 19.
Brought people like Saman who was even capped in friendly for Sweden. So it was almost done decision. He convinced the kid to play for Iran.
Brought PAG, Amiri, Torabi, Nour. Kanani,beiro, amir, Majid who are still with this team and important puzzles.
CQ team tied Portugal, beat Morocco, by far the best Asian team in 2018. And lost two tight game vs Spain and Argentina.
Too early to judge Skocic, Against Syria we didn't play good, and vs Iraq the early goal changed every thing. Still the possession was bad.
CQ took over a disaster team, real disaster, we had NO PLAYER in europe, not even Greece. I don't know if you realize the impact, and not sure names like Gholam Rezaei, Ghazi, Gholami, Arash Afhin refresh something for you but players like them were our only resources..
Skocic took over a team with now 20 players in Europe. That about 7-8 of them can't even make the squad because of depth.
CQ changed our players mentality.
Move to europe, even 2nd or 3rd rated league then i may consider you.
This is just about immediate impact, we all know in past and even players, specially Dejagah mentioned CQ was the main guy why he decided to play for Iran.
Plus 2014 team had no business to be in WC. Probably poorest Iran squad in WC. on paper
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CQ did okay but nothing extra-ordinary.
I don't care if the game was close against this team and that ... I look at stats
Iran went to 2 world cups, 1 victory 1 tie and 4 loss that means 4 points of possible 24! Yes he played closed but was thrashed against Bosnia team when it mattered. So if you think about the two appearance in two previous world cups, 1998 and 2006, the stats is exactly the same, 4 point out of 24 ! The victory against Morocco wasn't that amazing either. I mean we were not even the better team.
He lost in AFC 2 times. He was one of the guys who lost his cool against Iraq and his judgement was horrible as a coach. He lost against Japan 3-0.
I also think it is kinda unfair to associate achievement of Taremi and Sardar to CQ (He had a contribution but that is it). These kids have talent in the first place. Taremi worked very hard with second rate Portugese team and now he is doing great in Porto.
He did shit with Columbia, Portugal and Real Madrid and let's see what he does with Egypt.
I don't care if the game was close against this team and that ... I look at stats
Iran went to 2 world cups, 1 victory 1 tie and 4 loss that means 4 points of possible 24! Yes he played closed but was thrashed against Bosnia team when it mattered. So if you think about the two appearance in two previous world cups, 1998 and 2006, the stats is exactly the same, 4 point out of 24 ! The victory against Morocco wasn't that amazing either. I mean we were not even the better team.
He lost in AFC 2 times. He was one of the guys who lost his cool against Iraq and his judgement was horrible as a coach. He lost against Japan 3-0.
I also think it is kinda unfair to associate achievement of Taremi and Sardar to CQ (He had a contribution but that is it). These kids have talent in the first place. Taremi worked very hard with second rate Portugese team and now he is doing great in Porto.
He did shit with Columbia, Portugal and Real Madrid and let's see what he does with Egypt.
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Just been watching the first half in HD.
Quite impressed with Noorafkan .he played really well. Solid with good technique and good attitude.
Quite impressed with Noorafkan .he played really well. Solid with good technique and good attitude.
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